News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by fsckboy on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @08:50PM (#42787817)
wasn't there evidence of hiring a hitman to commit a murder in furtherance of the Silk Road? that's not part of "the debt of running the silk road"
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by alt187 on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @10:06PM (#42788479)
The hitman was a conman for a murder on a fictitious person. While he fully believed he was committing a real assassination, you can't convict people for killing imaginary people.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by croes on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @10:23PM (#42788588)
This doesn’t sound like an imaginary person

https://www.vice.com/en/article/murdered-silk-road-employee-...

Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by px43 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @01:37AM (#42789757)
I'm not convinced that you looked at the article you linked.

> That’s because he was the Silk Road employee implicated in an elaborate, and fake, murder-for-hire scheme, created in part by a corrupt Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agent.

Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by croes on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @05:00AM (#42791076)
The murder was fake not the murder order.

>DPR contacted one of his trusted drug dealer contacts, Nob, and asked him to kill Green for $40,000. Shortly after, Nob sent DPR photos of Green covered in Campbell’s Chicken & Stars soup and victim of an apparent asphyxiation, to prove the murder had been carried out.

> Unbeknown to DPR, Nob was no drug dealer. In fact, Nob was Carl Mark Force IV, the very same DEA agent who had arrested Green.

Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by alt187 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @06:24AM (#42791574)
There weee two murder for hire. Look up the story wirh FriendlyChemist.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by croes on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @06:32AM (#42791615)
But does it matter if he ordered a real murder?

The trial for the real one was scrapped because of his other convictions.

Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by alt187 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @07:29AM (#42792055)
Both were fake. One was a con by the DEA and the other one a con by a single guy posing as executioner, victim and a slew of other colorful characters.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by croes on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @10:23AM (#42793757)
The DEA murder was fake but not his order of the murder.

The man just didn’t die because the killer was a DEA agent in reality.

That’s still a felony.

Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by wahnfrieden on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @11:22PM (#42788969)
You can convict for murder for hire in that circumstance.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by lionkor on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @01:41AM (#42789789)
Yes but he did get scammed as that wasn't a real hitman
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by philomath_mn on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @09:02AM (#42792925)
Intent matters!! For all he knew, Ulbricht had killed those guys and he was fine with that
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by butlike on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @04:42PM (#42797830)
If intent matters, why can't people be tried for crimes before they commit them?
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by philomath_mn on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @06:58PM (#42798904)
He took paid someone money (a concrete action) with the intent to have someone murdered. This isn’t rocket science
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by etc-hosts on Thursday January 23, 2025 @11:14AM (#42805300)
People are usually jailed for hiring contract killers, even if the contract killer happens to be a FBI informant and the murder does not end up getting done.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by zik on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @01:51AM (#42789839)
There wasn't any evidence that actually happened. It appears that it may have been fabricated by the same investigators that later robbed him of some millions of dollars worth of bitcoin. Then when it went to trial the murder-for-hire charges were completely dropped due to lack of evidence.

He was convicted of:

  1. Conspiracy to traffic narcotics
  2. Continuing Criminal Enterprise (CCE) (sometimes referred to as the “kingpin” charge)
  3. Computer Hacking Conspiracy
  4. Conspiracy to Traffic in Fraudulent Identity Documents
  5. Money Laundering Conspiracy
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by etc-hosts on Thursday January 23, 2025 @11:16AM (#42805308)
I think they were dropped because in 1 out of the 6 cases, the investigation was tainted because the associated government agents committed their own crimes, and also maybe but I can't prove it everyone thought that prosecuting someone who has been sentenced to 2 life sentences + 40 years is a waste of time.
Re:Trump Pardons Creator of Silk Road Drug Marketplace by sebzim4500 on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @06:55AM (#42791781)
Wasn't that charge dropped though?