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Re:Authors Seek Meta's Torrent Client Logs and Seeding Data ... by amanaplanacanal on Monday January 20, 2025 @11:45PM (#42776726)
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. The courts will decide.
Re:Authors Seek Meta's Torrent Client Logs and Seeding Data ... by WarOnPrivacy on Monday January 20, 2025 @11:57PM (#42776782)
> Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. The courts will decide.

This offhandedly seems to dismiss the cost of achieving legal clarity for using a book - a cost that will far eclipse the cost of the book itself.

In that light, it seems like an underweighted statement.

Re:Authors Seek Meta's Torrent Client Logs and Seeding Data ... by spencerflem on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @12:04AM (#42776808)
What they will decide is that it is simultaneously not piracy because it is not read by a human and not copyright infringement because its just like a human learning by reading a book
Re:Authors Seek Meta's Torrent Client Logs and Seeding Data ... by icehawk on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @02:40AM (#42777492)
Those are both copyright infringement, sice we already have MAI Systems Corp. v. Peak Computer, Inc.

I'd like to see them try to argue Cartoon Network, LP v. CSC Holdings, Inc. applies to their corpus.

Re:Authors Seek Meta's Torrent Client Logs and Seeding Data ... by spencerflem on Tuesday January 21, 2025 @02:48AM (#42777528)
I really hope you'll be right -

But the first one is a human using things. Its big guy vs little guy.

The prescident is there, google already "reads" every page in the internet and injests it into its systems and has for decades and has survived lawsuits to do so.

Re:Authors Seek Meta's Torrent Client Logs and Seeding Data ... by aeonik on Wednesday January 22, 2025 @09:53AM (#42793444)
How does MAI Systems Corp v. Peak Computer, InC c apply here, at all?

Peak was using MAI operating system directly by live booting it without their permission.

Antivirus and security companies don't need licenses to scan copyrighted materials to look for threats or vulnerabilities.

AI similarly is not executing, deploying, reselling or redistributing the copyrighted material. It's using the data to build a model. Security software distills the down data more, but it's still the same principle.