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Re:I Met Paul Graham Once by DeathRay2K on Monday January 20, 2025 @12:28PM (#42770932)
You’re wrong that a so-called “war on hate” doesn’t work. More correctly, it doesn’t work in the US because of the first amendment and the few limitations on it.

Many other countries have robust anti-hate speech laws that are effective, although less so in the age of the internet.

People broadly conform to the society in which they live, and the rules of the society are broadly set by the laws they adhere to. So in countries where hate speech is disallowed, people conform to a less hateful viewpoint as a rule, and hateful people are the exception.

In the United States, it is clear that hatred is the norm as long as it is permitted by law and by leadership.

Re:I Met Paul Graham Once by 331c8c71 on Monday January 20, 2025 @12:55PM (#42771233)
> People broadly conform to the society in which they live, and the rules of the society are broadly set by the laws they adhere to

Well this can work very differently from what you imagine I believe. Like late Soviet Union where certain things were said in public and other things were said in private or in "trusted environments". For years and years... From what I hear this is in part what goes on in large multinationals where the pressure to conform is quite tangible.

Re:I Met Paul Graham Once by yodsanklai on Monday January 20, 2025 @12:45PM (#42771110)
> it doesn’t work in the US because of the first amendment and the few limitations on it.

This isn't clear to me. For instance, Meta was free to forbid hate speech on their platforms, or not to promote it in their feed algorithms. I don't think first amendment would force them to authorize hate speech. They do it to align with power in place (freely or coerced, not clear), but it's not a legal enforcement.

> So in countries where hate speech is disallowed, people conform to a less hateful viewpoint as a rule, and hateful people are the exception.

There are hateful people in Europe too.

Re:I Met Paul Graham Once by raincole on Monday January 20, 2025 @12:54PM (#42771209)
German woman given harsher sentence than rapist for calling him ‘pig’ : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/28/german-wom...

That's what "war on hate" slides to.

Re:I Met Paul Graham Once by arp242 on Monday January 20, 2025 @02:26PM (#42772130)
"Maja R was sentenced to a weekend in jail after her comments because she had a previous conviction for theft and had not attending the court hearing for the case."

Whatever you can say about the suspended sentences, merely "given harsher sentence than rapist for calling him ‘pig’" is not true by your own article.

Re:I Met Paul Graham Once by yodsanklai on Monday January 20, 2025 @02:07PM (#42771931)
Article is behind a paywall. I found another article

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/a-german-woman-said-she-was-...

> The court did find the two men guilty of wrongly making and distributing the sex video and fined them 1,350 euros ($1,500) each. But it reserved its gravest punishment for Lohfink, levying her a fine of 24,000 euros for falsely accusing the men.

If we're talking about the same story, it has nothing to do with "war on hate".