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Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by Kamq on Sunday January 19, 2025 @07:29PM (#42763672)
> the Constitution doesn't apply to foreign entities

Sort of true. Sometimes the constitution just says "persons", which has generally been interpreted to anyone.

But it's not material, because the 1st amendment is a restriction on congress. That's why it starts with "Congress shall make no law...". The argument isn't about if TikTok has rights, it's about if congress is authorized to take this action. They're inter-mixed a bit because if TikTok does have the rights they claim, then congress automatically isn't authorized, but they are separate.

Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by vivekd on Sunday January 19, 2025 @08:19PM (#42763940)
you're right, my statement is an extreme oversimplification and there are situations where the constitution does apply to noncitizens (like due process during deportation) or places where things are unclear (if speech of foreign nationals were being regulated). But this case where we are talking about a foreign media platform's right to operate in the US without any reference to the content they are broadcasting... this seems to be one of those rare clear cut cases. I mean no one saw any issue with America effectively banning RT.

There were some people on here saying that national security is just a pretense and the government is actually doing this because they dislike some of the content being posted on TikTok. I don't know if that's the case but if it were then I would concede there is a first amendment issue. But absent that I think it's safe to say that this case doesn't raise the first amendment.

Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by Kamq on Monday January 20, 2025 @07:44AM (#42768127)
> But absent that I think it's safe to say that this case doesn't raise the first amendment.

I still think it does, but it's Apple and Google's right to propagate the app, not TikTok's right to be on the app store. And since neither Apple nor Google are party to the lawsuit, nobody really has standing to take that particular line of argument.

Re:TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users by chrisco255 on Monday January 20, 2025 @03:39AM (#42766334)
Yes, of course Congress has the authority to restrict foreign companies purely from the Commerce Clause alone. Their power over restricting foreign entities in the U.S. is nearly total. The U.S. is under no obligation to host speech or operations from any foreign business, entity, or application for any reason whatsoever.