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Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by lmz on Sunday January 19, 2025 @02:54AM (#42754871)
Is this supposed to be China only or should the rest of the world also be suspicious and ban e.g. Meta services especially since they don't have any competing service that is popular in the US?
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by whoitwas on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:58AM (#42755265)
Non allied nations should absolutely ban US apps. Additionally, all government devices should have strict security features. It would be wise to also protect certain places from all electronic monitoring.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by darkwater on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:04AM (#42754955)
Oh but we are allies! The USA will never ever use the information gathered on allies for their own profit!
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by fulafel on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:23AM (#42755051)
Also Twitter (Trump/Musk) would never push for regime changes in Europe.

(For anyone out of the loop, see https://www.dw.com/en/elon-musk-backs-far-right-afd-in-contr...)

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by imgabe on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:31AM (#42755097)
Stop. This is stupid. People are allowed to have opinions on politics in other countries. Every other country in the world sure as hell isn’t shy about opining on US elections. Then you want to act all indignant if the US opines on your elections? Fuck off.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by kalleboo on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:47AM (#42755199)
The thing is that Elon Musk is not just some guy with an opinion. He's some guy who has an opinion and owns a major social media platform where he tweaks the algorithm to serve his own purposes, similar to what TikTok is being accused of.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by whoitwas on Sunday January 19, 2025 @04:15AM (#42755355)
Donald Trump also created his own media platform. It's a pillar of the cult. Without them, they can't keep people fearful and misinformed.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by imgabe on Sunday January 19, 2025 @04:24AM (#42755421)
“Everyone who has a media platform does it to keep people fearful and misinformed”. What does this tell you about previous media platforms?
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by fulafel on Sunday January 19, 2025 @05:11AM (#42755703)
In democracies the power of government and media are supposed to be different branches of the system. When this is violated it's considered a threat to democracy. Like in Italy Berlusconi's media empire, etc.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by imgabe on Sunday January 19, 2025 @06:05AM (#42755986)
lmao so the past 8 years where the media was a propaganda org for the DNC was what exactly?
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by whoitwas on Sunday January 19, 2025 @07:54AM (#42756567)
This is an odd statement. GOP was in power from 2016-2020. People confuse entertainment and social media with news sources. Nearly anyone can pay to advertise with traditional or social media.

I think you're trying to describe Twitter and the other "conservative" media sources? These are for entertainment, but traditionally would advertise whoever paid them. Now the companies have been purchased or created to spread misinformation.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by whoitwas on Sunday January 19, 2025 @06:08AM (#42756011)
I don't think that's true. For instance, Meta will spread whatever information it's legally allowed to if you pay them.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by imgabe on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:55AM (#42755241)
Yeah, and a lot of people opining on US elections had media platforms of their own, or were heads of state or otherwise influential.

Too bad. Sucks that you got beat at your own game.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by fulafel on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:37AM (#42755134)
I was talking about what agendas the powers that control the TikTok/Twitter/Meta might have, not (only) protesting the opinion.

And in this case they are known to be exceptionally ruthless and part of Trump's administration.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by red_admiral on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:02AM (#42754940)
I presume meta is banned in China.
Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by sekai on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:12AM (#42755006)
> Meta services especially since they don't have any competing service that is popular in the US

Meta won't tinker with the algorithm to push propaganda. TikTok will.

Re:TikTok goes dark in the US by mirzap on Sunday January 19, 2025 @03:28AM (#42755082)
Excuse me, what? They do it all the time. Vaccines and Israel's genocide are just the tip of the iceberg of the propaganda machine broadcast through Meta's services. Make no mistake, this is not about China.

TikTok had a huge negative impact on special interest groups that want to continue to allow the holocaust of our days to continue happening and the genocidal state to continue to behave with impunity.

The U.S. is already infiltrated by people working for foreign interests. The thing is, it's not infiltrated by China's or Russia's operatives.