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Re:Home Loss File System by kzalesak on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:23AM (#42709719)
I think that the biggest advantage of the spreadsheet is that it can be modified easily, even democratically and also on the go. No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information
Re:Home Loss File System by acidburnNSA on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:34AM (#42709795)
You may be right, but it's still an indictment of the web. After all, the first browser was an HTML editor as well as viewer.
Re:Home Loss File System by _Algernon_ on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @07:11AM (#42710013)
Wikipedia is literally a website that does this and has existed for >2 decades at this point.
Re:Home Loss File System by dewey on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @07:22AM (#42710098)
Most wikis are not very user friendly (UI, not about the rules and moderation), most people have used Word / Google Docs before so it's much more natural.
Re:Home Loss File System by wruza on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @07:34AM (#42710185)
### Regular _users_ cannot edit [Wikipedia](<url>)
Re:Home Loss File System by _Algernon_ on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @08:32AM (#42710546)
Refusal to learn != can't
Re:Home Loss File System by wruza on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:24AM (#42711067)
Learning is the last thing they want to do in a situation like “I want to update a document about losing homes”, and among the end of the to do list in general. One can argue as much as they want how it’s people’s fault, but the next catastrophe will create more google sheets and whatsapp groups and zero wikis and forum threads.

I believe that developers could bridge this gap easily, if they weren’t in the denial about their own UI/UX issues themselves.

Re:Home Loss File System by _Algernon_ on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:48AM (#42711378)
I'm speaking more broadly, not this specific instance.

In either case, justifying unwillingness to learn is a race to the bottom. I don't want every app to be made targeted at the lowest common denominator -- nor do I think it is healthy for society -- in terms of digital literacy. That's a race to the bottom to every app being like Tiktok.

Remember, that Gen Z doesn't understand what a directory or a file is because they grew up on spoon-feeding mobile apps, and this is causing problems for them when they enter the workplace.

This type of thought process of making everything as streamlined as possible is why that happens.

Re:Home Loss File System by wruza on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @11:20AM (#42712873)
This is a slippery slope style argument with immediate overstretching into tiktok.

There’s a difference between learning google sheets and learning markdown.

And you are misinterpreting the desire to not deal with irrelevant complexity as some race to the bottom, as if it wasn’t constrained by the task itself.

The task of both wiki and google suite (in this case) is to create web documents with formatting and links. We clearly see what wins when there’s no additional constraints that wikipedia as a project imposes. Tiktok is completely incomparable to these and is not the “minimum state” of the same task.

This type of thought process of making everything as streamlined as possible is why that happens.

This is just an incomplete thought. Multiple factors at play here and only one of these is a type of thought process. This is as unreasonable as saying “attention to details is bad cause it’s a type of thought process that allows burglars to enter homes”.

Re:Home Loss File System by IanCal on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @10:49AM (#42712339)
Yes, let me just go pop my personal contents and insurance details on wikipedia as myself and my family track, update and modify the structure of the page.
Re:Home Loss File System by _Algernon_ on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @02:47PM (#42715975)
Not sure why you feel justified in this level of snarkiness, given that i responded to a very specific claim:

>No website offers that kind of ease of use for _adding_ information

Obviously Wikipedia isn't great to upload your social security number to, but it does allow democratic adding of information which I cited it as an example of.

Please read the HN guidelines. You seem to require a refresher:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

>Don't be snarky.

Re:Home Loss File System by IanCal on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @03:26PM (#42716438)
Perhaps it was a little snarky - it was intended with good humour to point out how drastically far away the suggestion was.

Wikipedia is nothing like what this is for adding information in the way the comment says. Particularly because one of the very key points about this sheet is that you can copy it and add information. It's explicitly for that and Wikipedia absolutely does not offer the ease of use of filling in forms and adding your information on the go.

Re:Home Loss File System by teddyh on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @06:55AM (#42709910)
Have you heard of Wikis?
Re:Home Loss File System by egberts1 on Wednesday January 15, 2025 @09:14AM (#42710975)
Have you tried to edit just a tiny section of a Wiki while being updated by thousands of Wiki editors?