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Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by bbqfog on Sunday January 12, 2025 @01:52PM (#42675788)
It doesn't seem stupid at all. It seems brave and like it has a lot of business value. Why not expose the poor performing managers who are structurally protected by bureaucratic rot. Being a good person is good for business.
Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by bruce511 on Sunday January 12, 2025 @02:32PM (#42676159)
Feedback is good for business. If your company wants to hear your feedback then communicate that information on those (private) channels.

"Going public" is counter-productive if you are in a good faith organization that values feedback.

If you are in an organization that doesn't value your feedback then your feedback is irrelevant. Going public just makes it harder for you to get a job elsewhere.

Look, we've all had bad bosses and crappy managers. This isn't some surprising revelation. When you bad-mouth an ex employer in an interview, or in public, the next employer is wondering "what will you say about me to the next guy?"

Past behavior is an excellent predictor of future behavior. And when an employee shows you their approach to solving interpersonal issues, believe them.

Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by ethbr1 on Sunday January 12, 2025 @01:56PM (#42675831)
The delineating line here is:

- Is the employee including enough information and examples, and are those specific and strong enough, to communicate the toxic behavior?

- Does the employee strip out emotion from their post?

If yes, it tends to be well received. I.e. "Yes, that is shitty behavior that shouldn't happen in a workplace"

That's the difference between spotlighting and venting.

The former highlights something that objectively exists; the latter is more about you.

Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by jjmarr on Sunday January 12, 2025 @02:06PM (#42675929)
For a lot of toxic people, the business views them as "high performers" and their harassment of others as a personal flaw. "Separate the art from the artist". Sometimes, being a good person is seen as bad for business, since there's a meme that business is about being ruthless in success.

I blame it on movies and TV.

Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by no_wizard on Sunday January 12, 2025 @02:13PM (#42675988)
Ruthless toxic business culture predates movies and tv. Look at Standard Oil, Carnegie Steel, railroad conglomerates, the existence of legal slavery etc.

It is a flaw in the system, given the prevalence unchecked.

Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by jjmarr on Sunday January 12, 2025 @02:31PM (#42676157)
Ruthlessness is for your competitors, not your employees. Locking people into low-wage jobs doesn't benefit the company, because as soon as you get a competitor, you're screwed!

If we're using legal slavery as an example, countries that abolished slavery early ended up being more productive because employees actually want to work/innovate/create quality goods. By hiring slaves or treating your employees like crap, you're voluntarily specializing in the low-end of whatever market you're in, because your employees don't care about the product.

That's rarely the most profitable move unless you have a monopoly or a commodity good, like the examples you've provided.

We're doing this experiment right now in Canada by importing millions of temporary foreign workers/international students to work in slave-like conditions. If ruthless toxic slavery worked, we should be making more money. In reality, our GDP/capita has dropped continuously since 2019 indicating we're actually less profitable per person.

Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by no_wizard on Sunday January 12, 2025 @02:35PM (#42676189)
To be clear, I’m not equating these things to success in any forms, only that there has been a prevalence of negative patterns stemming from business culture for a long time
Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by santoshalper on Sunday January 12, 2025 @01:55PM (#42675826)
The phenomenon you're observing is broken-down drones who are bitter that other workers are refusing to tolerate the abuse that they accepted.
Re:Employees are bypassing HR, sharing on LinkedIn by Analemma_ on Sunday January 12, 2025 @02:50PM (#42676317)
Yeah, the "I had to suffer pointlessly, so you do too" effect and the accompanying post hoc rationalization for why the suffering was actually good are a depressingly powerful force to maintain the status quo, and are already all over this post.