News for hackers. Stuff that matters.

A comment on LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed. Parent comment

Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by wtcactus on Thursday January 09, 2025 @04:44AM (#42643536)
Yes, getting into prison after you committed a crime and were condemned for it, is usually not a free choice.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by s1artibartfast on Thursday January 09, 2025 @12:39PM (#42647943)
Totally agree. Once you are in prison, choosing to work or not is a free choice.
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by bdangubic on Thursday January 09, 2025 @02:47PM (#42649208)
Thirteenth Amendment, Section 1:

“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, EXCEPT as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.”

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by s1artibartfast on Thursday January 09, 2025 @04:00PM (#42649762)
In the context of firefighting, my understanding it is entirely voluntary and selective as well
[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by dragonwriter on Thursday January 09, 2025 @01:02PM (#42648199)
> Once you are in prison, choosing to work or not is a free choice.

It is literally not in California (though which work, within bounds that differ by prisoner, may be), and California this year defeated a ballot proposition which would have made your claim true.

[ Parent | on HN ]
Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by wtcactus on Thursday January 09, 2025 @02:44PM (#42649178)
The free choice is to whether commit or not the crime that puts you in prison. After that, until you pay your debt to society, the free choices are over.
[ Parent | on HN ]