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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by mulmen on Thursday January 09, 2025 @01:35AM (#42642241)
Yeah to me this sounds like letting slaves pick their bunks. It’s technically autonomy but not in any meaningful way. It’s certainly not a free person choosing their living arrangements.

I guess if you don’t consider prison labor to be slavery then it might be palatable but I just can’t draw that distinction. Especially given the history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_St...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Codes_(United_States)

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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by s1artibartfast on Thursday January 09, 2025 @12:47PM (#42648024)
I don't think anyone says prisoners having a choice means they're not prisoners or they are free from jail.

Nobody is claiming picking bunks means they're not a prisoner. It's still a free choice among bunks

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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by mulmen on Thursday January 09, 2025 @01:33PM (#42648508)
Yes, exactly! And the presence of a choice in labor doesn’t change the fact that they’re slaves.
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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by s1artibartfast on Thursday January 09, 2025 @02:13PM (#42648885)
What's your definition of slave? Are you saying that they are slaves no matter what? What would make them not slaves?

Are you opposed to all punishments of any sort?

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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by mulmen on Thursday January 09, 2025 @05:09PM (#42650323)
> What's your definition of slave?

A person who is forced to do work.

> Are you saying that they are slaves no matter what?

They are slaves as long as they are forced to work.

> What would make them not slaves?

Not being forced to work.

> Are you opposed to all punishments of any sort?

I have no idea where you got this impression. If you need it spelled out then no, I am not opposed to all forms of punishment.

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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by xeromal on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:43PM (#42651018)
It sounds like you'd consider volunteers as slaves then.
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Re:LA wildfires force thousands to evacuate, NASA JPL closed by mulmen on Friday January 10, 2025 @10:33AM (#42656512)
Volunteers aren’t forced to work so no, they aren’t slaves.
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