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Re:Orca That Carried Dead Calf for Weeks Appears to Be in Mo... by vasco on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:59PM (#42641462)
> Another counterargument is: pets. Somehow all meat eaters gasp on the idea of eating their pet, so they are not morally okay to eat an animal (as you claimed).

You seem to think humans are rational if-this-then-that machines but we're perfectly irrational enough to hold two dissenting views at the same time very closely. It doesn't prove much that people like their pets, serial killers also like their own families.

Re:Orca That Carried Dead Calf for Weeks Appears to Be in Mo... by pulkitsh1234 on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:08PM (#42641532)
Should we move towards irrationality or rationality? If being rational is marginally better we should move towards that. We want less serial killers in the society.

So pointing out the fact about pets is to force meat eaters to consider their irrationality face to face.

We have done this throughout our evolution. Some people notice the irrational things in our behavior and try to reason with other humans why doing these irrational things is wrong and should be stopped (slavery, racism, etc).

That's what I am doing, and anyone should do. Just accepting the fact that humans are irrational is just accepting the status quo.

Re:Orca That Carried Dead Calf for Weeks Appears to Be in Mo... by vasco on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:29PM (#42641638)
I hope to have the discernment to tell the difference between the irrational things I cannot change from the ones I can, and I don't think I'm changing this, so I accept it.
Re:Orca That Carried Dead Calf for Weeks Appears to Be in Mo... by gverrilla on Thursday January 09, 2025 @07:00AM (#42644391)
Few people believed slavery, a mechanism that stood for millennia, would end. Yet..
Re:Orca That Carried Dead Calf for Weeks Appears to Be in Mo... by vasco on Thursday January 09, 2025 @09:16AM (#42645743)
I also think eventually we won't eat animals, just not in my lifetime. Practicality doesn't need to be blind to morality and might also be wrong (it might be faster than I think).