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Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by Tarq0n on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:08AM (#42635615)
The professional cashier mostly disappeared as a career though. There's no point in optimizing for expert use when your users are temporary labor.
Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by wil421 on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:23AM (#42635771)
BS, in the food service industry quickness is better for prompt service. When I waited tables I could click ahead of the UI to get what I needed and the POS would catch up.

It needs to be easy and quick. Doesn’t matter if they are pros or people doing college jobs.

Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by mike_hearn on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @12:35PM (#42636506)
What he means is that GUIs won over TUIs because they're intuitive and learnable. They might be slower to use (mostly; I'm faster in IntelliJ than vim) but that is counterbalanced by the lower training costs.

In industries with high staff turnover, it's probably better to have slower workers but with much lower training costs.

Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by layer8 on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @02:03PM (#42637348)
There is no inherent conflict between GUIs and TUI-like speed. It’s the web tech stack and cloud-based apps, and piles upon piles of leaky abstractions in other environments, who have made things slow. Open Microsoft Word or Excel from 25 years ago, and it will be incredibly fast to operate.
Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by mike_hearn on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @02:11PM (#42637411)
Sure I agree, but getting fast at using mainframe style UI takes a lot longer and until you mastered the commands you would be slower. GUIs let people self teach which is valuable.

Web tech definitely makes it harder to give a really snappy experience.

Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by CyberDildonics on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:22AM (#42635768)
Who said anything about "professional cashiers" or "temporary jobs"? Did you mean to reply somewhere else?
Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by accrual on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:50AM (#42636042)
I think it's because GP mentioned "PoS software" which is often used by cashiers, but is not limited to cashiers. Anywhere a user might swipe or tap their credit card could be considered a PoS.

As a related aside, I recently visited Microcenter where they run their own PCI-compliant PoS system that's all text based. The staff all knew how to zip through various text menus to apply discounts, warranties, etc.

Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by mrguyorama on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @02:59PM (#42637865)
They are certainly paid and treated that way, but only because corps really want to buy their own bullshit.

There have never been enough highschoolers to fulfill all the """not real""" jobs that people keep insisting shouldn't pay enough to live. Hell, you used to be able to live on flipping burgers. In plenty of modern and democratic countries you actually still can live while flipping burgers.

Re:When will we fix the tools that run the world? by LargoLasskhyfv on Friday January 10, 2025 @03:10PM (#42659584)
> In plenty of modern and democratic countries you actually still can live while flipping burgers.

Depending on your demands on quality of life I'd doubt that.

Somewhere 1988 to 1989 I 'flipped burgers' as a so called crew-trainer fulltime, and made almost 5000 Deutsche Mark per month (after taxes, 'netto'), due to mostly working late/night-shifts.

Inflation adjusted that would roughly be about €5000/USD now. I think you'd be lucky to reach 2400 to 2800 now, as 'normal' burger flipper, or one level up, as crew trainer, no matter if working late/night shifts. (Because the financial benefits of working late/night are mostly gone now)