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Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by lolinder on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:36AM (#42623475)
This is a very important point.

In general, Nvidia's relationship with Linux has been... complicated. On the one hand, at least they offer drivers for it. On the other, I have found few more reliable ways to irreparably break a Linux installation than trying to install or upgrade those drivers. They don't seem to prioritize it as a first class citizen, more just tolerate it the bare minimum required to claim it works.

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by stabbles on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:39AM (#42623519)
Now that the majority of their revenue is from data centers instead of Windows gaming PCs, you'd think their relationship with Linux should improve or already has.
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by lolinder on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:41AM (#42623558)
It's possible. I haven't had a system completely destroyed by Nvidia in the last few years, but I've been assuming that's because I've gotten in the habit of just not touching it once I get it working...
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by pplonski86 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @01:27PM (#42625615)
I got similar experience. I really prefer switch CUDA version with whole PC machine. What is more, the speed and memory of hardware improves quickly in time as well.
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by godelski on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:16PM (#42626162)
I update drivers regularly. I've only had one display failure and was solved by a simple rollback. To be a bit fair (:/) it was specifically a combination of new beta driver and a newer kernel. It's definitely improved a ton since 10 years ago I just would not update them except very carefully.
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by lolinder on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:47PM (#42627990)
I've bricked multiple systems just running apt install on the Nvidia drivers. I have no idea how, but I run the installation, everything works fine, and then when I reboot I can't even boot.

That was years ago, but it happened multiple times and I've been very cautious ever since.

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by godelski on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @03:53PM (#42638324)
Interesting. I've never had that issue (~15 years experience) but I always had CPUs with graphics drivers. Do you think that might be it? The danger zone was always at `startx` and never before. (I still buy CPUs with graphics drivers because I think it is always good to have a fallback and hey, sometimes I want to sacrifice graphics for GPU compute :)
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by KerrAvon on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:37PM (#42626427)
I have been having a fine time with a 3080 on recent Arch, FWIW.

HDR support is still painful, but that seems to be a Linux problem, not specific to Nvidia.

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by sangnoir on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @01:37PM (#42625732)
Nvidia segments its big iron AI hardware from the consumer/prosumer segment. They do this by forbidding the use of GeForce drivers in datacenters[1]. All that to say, it is possible for the H100 to to have excellent Linux support, while support for the 4090 is awful.

1. https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/nvidia-updates-ge...

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by robhlt on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:18PM (#42626187)
They have been making real improvements the last few years. Most of their proprietary driver code is in firmware now, and the kernel driver is open-source[1] (the userland-side is still closed though).

They've also significantly improved support for wayland and stopped trying to force eglstreams on the community. Wayland+nvidia works quite well now, especially after they added explicit sync support.

1. https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules/

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by jimmySixDOF on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:10PM (#42627514)
>complicated

... as in remember the time a ransomware hacker outfit demanded they release the drivers or else .....

https://www.webpronews.com/open-source-drivers-or-else-nvidi...

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by Vilian on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @02:48PM (#42637766)
Because red hat announced that next RHEl is going tone Wayland only, that why they fixed all that you said, they don't care about users, only servers
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by dotancohen on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @01:45PM (#42625802)

  > Nvidia's relationship with Linux has been... complicated.
For those unfamiliar with Linus Torvalds' two-word opinion of Nvidia:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=OF_5EKNX0Eg

Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by andirk on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @10:55AM (#42635475)
Wow. Torvalds' distaste for Nvidia from that, albeit 12 year old, clip leaves little to the imagination. Re: gaming GPUs, Windows is their main OS, but is that the main reason why Huang only mentioned Windows in his CES 2025 keynote? Their gaming chips are a small portion of the company now. But they want to focus dev on Windows??
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by rbanffy on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @11:31AM (#42635857)
Nvidia has its own Linux distribution, DGX OS, based on Ubuntu LTS.
Re:Nvidia's Project Digits is a 'personal AI supercomputer' by FuriouslyAdrift on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:40PM (#42626473)
The Digits device runs the same nVidia DGX OS (nVidia custom Ubuntu distro) that they run on their cloud infra.