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Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by terhechte on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:06AM (#42623111)
If you have 128gb ram, try running MoE models, they're a far better fit for Apple's hardware because they trade memory for inference performance. using something like Wizard2 8x22b requires a huge amount of memory to host the 176b model, but only one 22b slice has to be active at a time so you get the token speed of a 22b model.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by FuriouslyAdrift on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:30AM (#42623385)
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by throwaway48476 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:10PM (#42627511)
I guess they're tired of people buying macs for AI.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by logankeenan on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @11:30AM (#42624227)
Do you have any recommendations on models to try?
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by stkdump on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @12:03PM (#42624657)
Mixtral and Deepseek use MOE. Most others don't.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by Terretta on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @12:51PM (#42625189)
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by terhechte on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @01:10PM (#42625397)
In addition to the ones listed by others, WizardLM2 8x22b (was never officially released by Microsoft but is available).
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by memhole on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:38PM (#42626441)
I planted garlic this year. Thanks for documenting! I can’t wait to see what I get harvest time.

I like the Llama models personally. Meta aside. Qwen is fairly popular too. There’s a number of flavors you can try out. Ollama is a good starting point to try things quickly. You’re def going to have to tolerate things crashing or not working imo before you understand what your hardware can handle.

Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by cma on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:59AM (#42623787)
You can also run the experts on separate machines with low bandwidth networking or even the internet (token rate limited by RTT)
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by memhole on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:32PM (#42626352)
I haven’t had great luck with the wizard as a counter point. The token generation is unbearably slow. I might have been using too large of a context window, though. It’s an interesting model for sure. I remember the output being decent. I think it’s already surpassed by other models like Qwen.
Re:Nvidia announces next-gen RTX 5090 and RTX 5080 GPUs by terhechte on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:21PM (#42626975)
Long context windows are a problem. I gave Qwen 2.5 70b a ~115k context and it took ~20min for the answer to finish. The upside of MoE models vs 70b+ models is that they have much more world knowledge.