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Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by occz on Monday January 06, 2025 @11:12PM (#42619132)
You can already extrapolate from the results from other cities who have implemented the policy, where it has been wildly successful at reducing congestion.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by coding123 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @01:43AM (#42619959)
... for rich people.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by occz on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:11AM (#42620401)
Nope, it's been great for poorer people who take transit at higher rates than others, and congestion pricing funds useful transit expansions for them.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by jdkdkdkfj on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @04:07AM (#42620695)
So basically if you're poor but managed to get a car you should get back on the bus where you belong.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by occz on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @05:46AM (#42621219)
This comment is telling about your values when it comes to both cars and buses.

Consider some introspection.

Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by jdkdkdkfj on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @06:02AM (#42621288)
I think the same could be said about how your priorities allow you to confidently ignore regressive outcomes produced by these kinds of policies. Personally I find your values more telling than mine.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by vcarl on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @06:57AM (#42621523)
Yes, you stand behind your comments so strongly you created an anonymous throwaway account just to share them.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by polon on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @09:09AM (#42622445)
So far, none of the data provided by the linked site would suggest Manhattan will see a reduction in transportation times. This is with the Monday snow however, which I'd imagine caused delays by itself.

I will say, being in Manhattan, their seems to be less traffic on the road. I wonder if Google Maps traffic data is using a rolling average of ~7 days or something

Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by asdff on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @12:01PM (#42624630)
Google maps traffic data is live
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by yt-sdb on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @01:29PM (#42625647)
Are you sure? Compare before/after for the main affected regions (Holland Tunnel, Queensboro) versus the unaffected regions. We definitely need more data, but I think there's an immediate reduction in the obvious places.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by blehn on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @02:22PM (#42626230)
According to this data, traffic is reduced on the bridges and tunnels but not within Manhattan itself, e.g., going from Hell's Kitchen to Midtown East or Greenwich Village to Alphabet City.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by polon on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @09:23AM (#42634548)
You're right...I was only looking at internal Manhattan, but the bridges and tunnels seem to show a significant reduction in transportation times
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by freejazz on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @10:38AM (#42623511)
I thought London's traffic returned to the same levels as prior to their congestion pricing?
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by eru on Wednesday January 08, 2025 @05:58AM (#42632932)
Singapore is probably the better model to look at? We had congestion pricing before London.
Re:NYC Congestion Pricing by evgen on Thursday January 09, 2025 @03:29AM (#42643092)
It has not. Traffic levels are down 15-20% while number of visitors to the inside of the congestion zone has increased. Traffic speed inside the zone has also increased slightly.

Overall, London's example shows that congestion pricing works as advertised.