Re:NYC Congestion Pricing
by occz on Monday January 06, 2025 @11:12PM
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You can already extrapolate from the results from other cities who have implemented the policy, where it has been wildly successful at reducing congestion.
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... for rich people.
Nope, it's been great for poorer people who take transit at higher rates than others, and congestion pricing funds useful transit expansions for them.
So basically if you're poor but managed to get a car you should get back on the bus where you belong.
This comment is telling about your values when it comes to both cars and buses.
Consider some introspection.
I think the same could be said about how your priorities allow you to confidently ignore regressive outcomes produced by these kinds of policies. Personally I find your values more telling than mine.
Yes, you stand behind your comments so strongly you created an anonymous throwaway account just to share them.
So far, none of the data provided by the linked site would suggest Manhattan will see a reduction in transportation times. This is with the Monday snow however, which I'd imagine
caused delays by itself.
I will say, being in Manhattan, their seems to be less traffic on the road. I wonder if Google Maps traffic data is using a rolling average of ~7 days or something
Google maps traffic data is live
Are you sure? Compare before/after for the main affected regions (Holland Tunnel, Queensboro) versus the unaffected regions. We definitely need more data, but I think there's an immediate reduction in the obvious places.
According to this data, traffic is reduced on the bridges and tunnels but not within Manhattan itself, e.g., going from Hell's Kitchen to Midtown East or Greenwich Village to Alphabet City.
You're right...I was only looking at internal Manhattan, but the bridges and tunnels seem to show a significant reduction in transportation times
I thought London's traffic returned to the same levels as prior to their congestion pricing?
Singapore is probably the better model to look at? We had congestion pricing before London.
It has not. Traffic levels are down 15-20% while number of visitors to the inside of the congestion zone has increased. Traffic speed inside the zone has also increased slightly.
Overall, London's example shows that congestion pricing works as advertised.