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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:16PM (#42615171)
Authoritarianism is trying to topple an elected government through force and illegal behaviour.

Which is what the "trucker convoy" was.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by slackfan on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:20PM (#42615227)
Per Miriam Webster:

1: of, relating to, or favoring blind submission to authority

2: of, relating to, or favoring a concentration of power in a leader or an elite not constitutionally responsible to the people

It was quite pointedly, exactly neither of these. Words have meanings.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:23PM (#42615260)
What glib nonsense. We had authoritarian right wing protesters -- who don't believe in democracy -- trying to topple our elected government. Imposing their will on the people in Ottawa for weeks, threatening violence and disturbing the peace.

i.e. Not constitutionally responsible to the people.

Words have meaning, as do actions, sir, and you're choose to ignore both because of your partisan blind spots.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by slackfan on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:36PM (#42615429)
Alternatively, people took up grievance with their government in a peaceful manner, no matter your choice to ignore (and twist) meanings, actions, and outcomes because of your partisan blind spots.
Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:43PM (#42615521)
You might present that as an alternative, but it would be... how shall I say it... a lie?

There was no "peaceful" presentation of grievance. There was weeks of civil disobedience and actual acts of violence.

The twisted part, again, is the ideologically biased game you're playing.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by slackfan on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:46PM (#42615550)
Proof of actual acts of non-police violence please.

Reminder that blocked traffic and hurt feelings are not violence, otherwise we'd need to classify every climate action as unbearably and irrevocably violent.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:48PM (#42615584)
Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by slackfan on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:53PM (#42615669)
>https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/ottawa-police-laid-... No actual violence, just "threats of".

>https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/1.6400768 Obstruction/assault of police officer. IE, altercation with police. Expected at a protest.

>https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/officers-issued-multiple-violation... One man charged with assault. You finally found one, congratulations. No details whether it was protest related, or just happened to be in the area. Could have been a provocation. Which would also be expected at a large protest.

None of these articles paint a picture of untoward violence any worse than what goes on at a normal pop/rock concert.

But I suppose pearl clutchers are gonna clutch (and not read their own articles).

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:01PM (#42615752)
Ok give me your address someone (not me) will pull up in front of your house and lay on their horn all night. For a couple weeks.

Will you press charges and expect the police to respond?

Also when your wife leaves the house, someone (not me) will follow her and harass her for wearing a mask.

Then an ambulance will come by to pick up your elderly relative and someone will make sure my truck is in front of it, stopping it from getting to the hospital, because the hospital is a place that poisons people with COVID jabs.

This is all ok and peaceful behaviour, to you? Right?

Tell me how you feel about the January 6th event, while you're at it. How about the Munich Beer Hall Putsch?

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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:31PM (#42616108)
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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by marcusverus on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:23PM (#42616036)
> There was no "peaceful" presentation of grievance. There was weeks of civil disobedience and actual acts of violence.

Partisans love to play this game, where they judge a large group of people by the worst possible interpretation of the actions of a tiny subset of them.

For a protest which some estimates say peaked at ~18,000, this was the resulting set of "violent" charges:

"12 charges of assaulting a peace officer; six charges of assault; three charges of assault or intimidation with a weapon; five charges of possessing a weapon dangerous to public peace; two charges of carrying a concealed weapon; one charge of possessing a restricted firearm; and four charges of uttering threats of death or bodily harm." [0]

Obviously this is not acceptable, but the idea that the protesters as a group were "authoritarians" because 0.01% of them got violent is hysterical nonsense.

[0] https://archive.is/8VYvr#selection-4877.151-4877.502

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by cmrdporcupine on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:33PM (#42616141)
Charges were low because the police refused to do their job. This is stated on record.

(Also... Partisan hardly describes me. I've never voted Liberal in my life and have been opposed to this PM since day one. Ask any of my annoyed coworkers and friends.)