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Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by bryanlarsen on Monday January 06, 2025 @01:43PM (#42613785)
The Police Chief lost his job over it. What other consequences would you think appropriate?
Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by morkalork on Monday January 06, 2025 @01:51PM (#42613905)
Investigations and penalties for everyone up the chain, starting with the frontline officers who were on the ground refusing to issue tickets. If an officer chooses to not do their job over their political beliefs they do not belong on the force.
Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by FireBeyond on Monday January 06, 2025 @03:51PM (#42615632)
Absolutely. I'm a paramedic. I will be in front of a licensing hearing defending why should be allowed to continue as a paramedic to the DOH if I refuse to treat a patient because of politics/beliefs, as an EMS provider.

Depending on the severity, I can even be facing administrative charges of patient abandonment under my state's Administrative Code for standards of care for providers.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by parineum on Monday January 06, 2025 @07:48PM (#42617951)
"Over politics" does some legwork for you here as does the singling out of you vs the entire cadre of EMS.

Consider it, instead, that the police, as a whole, joined the protest which also had a decent amount of support from the populous.

That's a far cry from one person refusing to do their job with very little (almost none) support from the populous, as your analogy would be.

If it was a single cop refusing to arrest a Nazi for a crime because they agreed with them, that cop would be fired.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by ethbr1 on Monday January 06, 2025 @08:38PM (#42618258)
* populace
Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by inglor_cz on Monday January 06, 2025 @04:51PM (#42616367)
“If you owe the bank $100, that's your problem. If you owe the bank $100 million, that's the bank's problem.”

Same applies here. If 10 officers misbehave, it is easy to fire them all, as you suggest.

If a majority of the entire police force defects, your only choice is between limiting the scope of the punishment to a few ringleaders vs. basically disbanding the police force and starting a new one from scratch, hoping that you can even recruit enough people to do so; but, in the meantime, the city won't be policed anymore, as the entire institutional memory has been purged.

In most similar cases in history, the authorities opted for a blanket pardon, as it is much less of a headache.

It is not even a new problem. Police is a relatively recent institution, but armies, gendarmes, legions etc. rebelled all the time, and peace usually had to be bought by concessions.

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by jazzyjackson on Monday January 06, 2025 @05:38PM (#42616868)
It's not unheard of to disband and reconstitute a police department. I would argue its the right move when the organization as a whole has effectively gone rogue.

The most significant example I'm aware of is Camden New Jersey.

The city’s crime rate was among the worst in the US. Within nine square miles and among nearly 75,000 residents, there were over 170 open-air drug markets reported in 2013, county officials told CNN. Violent crime abounded. Police corruption was at the core.

Lawsuits filed against the department uncovered that officers routinely planted evidence on suspects, fabricated reports and committed perjury. After the corruption was exposed, courts overturned the convictions of 88 people, the ACLU reported in 2013.

So in 2012, officials voted to completely disband the department – it was beyond reform.

And in 2013, the Camden County Police Department officially began its tenure. No other city of Camden’s size has done anything quite like it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/disband-police-camden-new-...

Re:Justin Trudeau announces resignation as Canadian prime mi... by pyuser583 on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @12:07AM (#42619459)
Loss of support for elected officials?