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Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by igor47 on Monday January 06, 2025 @09:15AM (#42610695)
I mean... Yes okay. But is this the world you prefer? Wouldn't it be nice if we could both tell children to be the best they could be at something, to strive for greatness... And then also supported them when they did? Or would you rather reduce humanity to the cold calculus of capitalism?
Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by herdcall on Monday January 06, 2025 @09:46AM (#42610964)
You're correct. But throwing a disc may be fun activity, but by no means is it a mark of "greatness." If a pro sport can't entertain, IMO it's a waste of time and contributes little to humanity. I would be happier if people celebrate wins in science.
Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by unsupp0rted on Monday January 06, 2025 @09:39AM (#42610899)
Yes, I prefer it this way. Children can be the best they can be at something, and have that thing generate no value to anybody else around them. No need to subsidize it.
Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by JambalayaJimbo on Monday January 06, 2025 @09:48AM (#42610982)
People very much do care about the olympics… once every 4 years. There is clearly value generated by throwing a disk around, and it’s not being distributed well.
Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by unsupp0rted on Monday January 06, 2025 @10:55AM (#42611601)
Do they? I can't name a single disc thrower, sabre-master, parallel bar gripper, judo person, or thing-shooter.

Every once in a while a Turkish guy shooting with no equipment becomes a meme, or the greatest swimmer or runner in the history of the world comes onto the scene. Newsmedia goes nuts because this sells advertising.

But then a southern girl in a 5-second viral video does 100x of that in notoriety, with no travel budget and for the production cost of a single Big Mac.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by DrillShopper on Monday January 06, 2025 @12:00PM (#42612356)
> Do they?

Clearly they do or NBC wouldn't pay approximately eleventy quadtrillion dollars every time the contract is up to renew. NBC makes billions on the Olympics though running advertising and advertisers are willing to pay NBC's rates therefore at least enough people care for NBC to profit massively.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by unsupp0rted on Monday January 06, 2025 @12:16PM (#42612563)
Advertisers might be paying due to historical inertia and the need to compete with other advertisers during these times. And NBC rakes in the money just like Google does from local pest control companies who pay $10+ per click.

They don't want to pay that much, they may not really profit from paying that much, but they can't let their competitors take the customer for free.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by AuryGlenz on Tuesday January 07, 2025 @03:14AM (#42620420)
Except NBC barely broadcasts any sports other than swimming, gymnastics, and track and field (summer). If you’re good at one of those you’re probably good financially as well. If you’re a decent shot..putter?

Nobody particularly cares, other than other people in the sport. The only reason they might show you is if you win a medal for the US.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by hindsightbias on Thursday January 09, 2025 @02:36AM (#42642717)
Maybe there should be some ethical consideration of a culture of prizing American/German/Chinese/Russian mostly semi-pro and literally pro athletes stomping mostly real amateurs from the rest of the world in the olympiad.

They could all save a lot of money and it would probably be more interesting to watch.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by MichaelZuo on Monday January 06, 2025 @10:11AM (#42611193)
They do care for a few seconds on average per viewer… so that small amount of value is making its way to the athlete.

It’s just a fraction of a cent per viewer. So even with hundreds of millions of viewers it’s still barely a hundred thousand dollars to be split up between all disk throwers.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by Neonlicht on Monday January 06, 2025 @12:58PM (#42613109)
Let's be real here the value comes from someone winning a medal for their country. I don't think a single person in the Netherlands gives a shit about fencing or kayaking but if a Dutch boy/girl ends up on the podium it's broadcast live.
Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by kitd on Thursday January 09, 2025 @06:34AM (#42644238)
Children can be the best they can be at something, and have that thing generate no value to anybody else around them

Except that the IOC generate billions in revenue so there obviously is value to a lot of people in it somewhere. The problem as stated is that the root source of that value, ie the athletes, see very little of that revenue.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by lmm on Thursday January 09, 2025 @08:53AM (#42645487)
> the IOC generate billions in revenue so there obviously is value to a lot of people in it somewhere.

There's value in the Olympics, sure, but that value is concentrated in a handful of big-name sports. The smaller ones come along for the ride rather than generating value themselves.

Re:Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken'... by _rm on Monday January 06, 2025 @10:37AM (#42611420)
Yeah but I'm not going to tell them throwing a disc is greatness, and I'm not going to tell them to make up the gap between what they think an activity is worth and what society thinks it's worth by becoming a whiner. That'd be abuse.

Support is a two way street, and I'd rather kids grow up to be strong and able to be those supporters of others than end up a depressed lonely loser, when they could've been happy instead, because they pissed their efforts on some trivia.

I found your capitalism quip particularly amusing. I know it's just a parroting of programming from your university days, but I'm sure there's someone in a labour camp in North Korea who'd crack at least a brief smile at the idea of a poor downtrodden Olympian proletarian spending all day practicing throwing a stick because it's their passion.