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Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by blackeyeblitzar on Saturday January 04, 2025 @12:31PM (#42596179)
This is a huge disservice to the public. Lots of offenders are repeat offenders, and the public needs to know who they are. Or maybe someone just wants to look up an old news story they remember. More fundamentally, this type of action is just a manipulation of the public and not journalism, which should be a neutral way of sharing information.
Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by CSMastermind on Saturday January 04, 2025 @12:42PM (#42596296)
No just lots but almost all.

63% of violent offenders reoffend but that actually undercounts the amount of crimes that are caused by repeat offenders because there are some people offending 10+ times.

A three strikes rule would eliminate nearly half of all violent crime because nearly half of violent crime is committed by people who have already been convicted of 3+ other violent crimes.

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by blackeyeblitzar on Saturday January 04, 2025 @12:57PM (#42596417)
In the Seattle area there’s a huge trend of reoffending criminals performing larger crimes as time goes, because they face no real consequences. This is happening because activist judges, who typically run unopposed and don’t face consequences themselves, are releasing dangerous criminals back into the public. As a recent example, an activist judge released a teen who committed felony robbery back into the public, against prosecutors’ pleas, and he ended up stabbing and disemboweling another teen.

https://komonews.com/news/local/everett-lions-park-stabbing-...

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by mmooss on Saturday January 04, 2025 @02:38PM (#42597094)
> there’s a huge trend of reoffending criminals performing larger crimes as time goes

Is there evidence of it? In my experience, people take a few incidents as ammunition for their reactionary attacks on 'activists'. But that doesn't mean it is or isn't happening.

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by qingcharles on Sunday January 05, 2025 @06:15PM (#42605892)
Statistically, across the USA, a large majority of the judges are ex-prosecutors and definitely not "activists." I've personally known dozens of criminal court judges and I can't think of a single one that routinely sentences on the low side or would be considered an "activist." Even the defense lawyers I know that become judges usually sentence punitively, as if to show they aren't biased.
Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by FireBeyond on Saturday January 04, 2025 @01:01PM (#42596451)
> A three strikes rule would eliminate nearly half of all violent crime because nearly half of violent crime is committed by people who have already been convicted of 3+ other violent crimes.

LMAO. Twenty-nine states have a three strikes rule, and their violent crime hasn't decreased by half.

Source: https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/three-strikes...

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by blackeyeblitzar on Saturday January 04, 2025 @04:46PM (#42597921)
Maybe it has dropped relative to what it would have been otherwise.
Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by FireBeyond on Saturday January 04, 2025 @09:46PM (#42599339)
Then presumably the states with these rules will be the least violent in the country, right?

Spoiler: they’re not. In fact several of the states without those rules have less violent crime.

If you want to say each state is different, sure. But there is zero way of proving your hypothesis.

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by thoutsnark on Saturday January 04, 2025 @06:35PM (#42598475)
Which suggests rehab might be better than prison for getting these people to give up violence.
Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by qingcharles on Sunday January 05, 2025 @06:08PM (#42605857)
I was locked up. I've worked with offenders coming straight out of prison. A majority will return to prison.

Why? Several reasons.

1) When you get out, everything is stacked against you. Despite what you hear, there is almost zero support for those released. You've almost certainly lost all your support networks (family, friends). You have no money, no ID, no bank account, no debit card, no cellphone, no email address, no home, no clothing, no food. You have a criminal record, the newspapers say you're a criminal, the Internet says you're a criminal. It's very, very tough.

2) Your only friends when you get out are other ex-cons. Most people in the system have suffered from drug addictions. Everyone you know will be trying to get you to use again. And if they can get you to use then they can get you to steal to get money to pay them for drugs, so they can pay for their own drugs.

3) Only the first stint in jail really sucks. When you walk back into jail you walk back in as a boss. You know the system, you know the routines, you're probably going back to the same jail, so you know the guards. All your friends are there. When you walk in the door your buddies will give you a starter kit to get you going. You're not scared of anyone or anything. After the first time, not only are you not scared to return, you might be thankful for the rest from the hardships of being released.

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by defrost on Sunday January 05, 2025 @06:13PM (#42605876)
Various by system - South Africa has a 9 out of 10 recidivism rate, the US 7 out of 10, Finland 3 out of 10. China, reportedly, has just over 1 out of 10 .. although the reason there is they apparently execute serial recidivists.

Finland puts some effort into looking what circumstances land citizens in jail and addressing those and post time served support.

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by qingcharles on Sunday January 05, 2025 @06:25PM (#42605951)
Yes, sorry, my comment is specific to the USA. A lot of countries have better and/or different (China) ways of dealing with recidivism.

It's horrible that if you go to prison once, then that's basically your whole life from now on. Most people will never escape the revolving door.

Every single person I know who has been to prison is counting down the days until they end up locked up again.

Re:US newspapers are deleting old crime stories, offering su... by defrost on Sunday January 05, 2025 @06:31PM (#42605990)
No need to apologise, the contrast is worthy of some reflection.

Australia does somewhat better than the US, but it's sharply broken on various demographics leading to rate quotes ranging from 32%, to 50%, to 60% (close to the US) depending on which populations are focused on.

FWiW the US inspires much health, education, prison, etc. policy here .. albeit more often as a counter point or warning.