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Re: by adriand on Friday January 03, 2025 @08:39PM (#42591478)
That’s not the full context of what is in the article. The full sentence is:

> Europeans could learn from Canada how to allow immigration in a fashion that the population embraces rather than tolerates, though a housing crunch has frayed that consensus of late.

Far from sounding ignorant, the author sounds well-informed.

Re: by boringg on Friday January 03, 2025 @10:12PM (#42592021)
Last I checked immigration isn't doing to well in the EU either.
Re: by bawolff on Friday January 03, 2025 @09:18PM (#42591710)
Umm no? There is (sadly) a significant anti-immigration backlash right now in canada. Its a core election issue and one of the main reasons trudeau is likely going to lose the next election.
Re: by cman1444 on Friday January 03, 2025 @10:48PM (#42592209)
Did you mean to respond to the parent comment?

The comment you're responding to gives credit to the author for acknowledging recent anti-immigration sentiment in Canada.

Re: by bawolff on Saturday January 04, 2025 @03:38AM (#42593422)
No, i responded to the comment i meant to. I don't think "frayed" is an accurate assesment given the liberal polling numbers are in the toilet and this seems to be the election issue causing that.
Re: by mensetmanusman on Saturday January 04, 2025 @12:22AM (#42592652)
It is sad because the government knew and failed to act on 5x-ing the rate of housing production to keep up with new arrivals.

Failing to do so has screwed over so many people due to housing costs that went up due to mass migration. This was all predicted though if that makes anyone feel better.

Re: by remarkEon on Saturday January 04, 2025 @02:08AM (#42593067)
Housing isn't the only thing that "solves" immigration issues. The immigrants have to, you know, assimilate.

For whatever reason this step has been deleted from the usual policy matrix, and as a result we've been running a great experiment over the last 20+ years in Canada, Europe, and the US.

Re: by bawolff on Saturday January 04, 2025 @03:37AM (#42593414)
I personally don't believe lack of assimilation is a siginificant driver of anti-immigrant sentiment in canada at present.
Re: by 3vidence on Sunday January 05, 2025 @02:43AM (#42600358)
I have to ask based on this. Do you live in Canada?

Canada / India tensions is definitely a pretty core driver of the immigration sentiment in Canada.

Unfortunately in many ways Indian TFW have been linked to a large number of national crime stories in the past ~5 years that have caused a lot of anger in Canada.

* State sponsored assassination

* Gang bombing / shootings related to showing of Indian movies

* International student slaying entire family at their home

* Stolen car driving wrong way down highway killing entire family

* Country wide car theft ring

* Trafficking of narcotics across CAN-USA border

* Mass immigration / employment fraud

* Violent clashes outside of Mosques

These were literally off the top of my head and every story is specifically linked to Indian TFWs. Having grown up in Canada these types of stories were not common growing up and definitely weren't so specifically concentrated.

Re: by Yeul on Saturday January 04, 2025 @05:57AM (#42593968)
Yes Indians come to Canada for jobs and money but keep their own culture.

I always find it slightly bizarre. I have tried to explain that culture and economy are interlinked. India's inequality and superstitious beliefs will keep the population poor.

Re: by gruez on Saturday January 04, 2025 @10:56AM (#42595464)
>I always find it slightly bizarre. I have tried to explain that culture and economy are interlinked. India's inequality and superstitious beliefs will keep the population poor.

These arguments are... unreliable to say the least. Back when east asia was poor, people made similar "culture and economy are interlinked" claims. Specifically, that confucianism was holding them back and keeping them poor. After the east asian miracle happened, people did a 180, and confucianism was a good thing led to their rapid growth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Asian_Tigers#Cultural_bas...

Re: by Yeul on Saturday January 04, 2025 @01:21PM (#42596589)
Confucius probably wouldn't champion women working.
Re: by seanmcdirmid on Friday January 03, 2025 @09:16PM (#42591701)
“Frayed” is an understatement though: Canada has swung clearly in the anti-immigration camp over the last 4 or so years, maybe longer? It is to the point that Trump might actually be popular in Canada now just because of anti immigration sentiment alone.
Re: by roncesvalles on Friday January 03, 2025 @09:21PM (#42591726)
Online, hate appears far more amplified than it is in the outside world.

In the real world, yes there are places teeming with immigrants and international students, but you drive a block and turn a corner, and "it's Canada again". You lose that nuance in the online world where all you see is 10 seconds of a 120 degree window into some parking lot somewhere where immigrants happened to have gathered.

If you watch a video of the Embarcadero in SF on a Sunday, you're gonna think no one actually lives in SF, there's only tourists.

Re: by OccamsMirror on Friday January 03, 2025 @11:47PM (#42592496)
I think you'll find it's the very real housing crisis that is causing the anti-immigration sentiment.
Re: by bawolff on Saturday January 04, 2025 @03:44AM (#42593454)
Polls suggest 58% of canadians want less immigrants. That is up by 17% in 2 years. Those numbers are quite concerning. https://www.environicsinstitute.org/projects/project-details...

However i don't think its because people hate immigrants. I think its because conservatives managed to link it to the housing crisis, which is something canadians care a lot about, and neither liberals or ndp have had an effective come back to that.

Re: by jokethrowaway on Saturday January 04, 2025 @07:45AM (#42594386)
Canada is certainly not this example. Immigration is a big issue.

The only place where immigration worked I can think of was the USA, in the old times.

The recipe for successful immigration is very simple: no benefits, import only people with some money and with skilled jobs qualifications, hard stance against illegal immigration.

Anything else is a recipe for disaster.