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Re: by buzzert on Friday January 03, 2025 @05:50PM (#42590331)
Generally, countries with expanding economies and a lot of physical space do not have issues with immigration. The US has its problems, but the argument generally has been over the extent of immigration, and not against immigration entirely (minority extremists notwithstanding). Canada is interesting in this regard, because it has a lot of land but a contracting economy.
Re: by threeseed on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:06PM (#42590444)
Australia has had major political issues with immigration over the decades.

And we have an expanding economy and a ridiculous amount of free space.

So not sure your thesis works.

Re: by userbinator on Friday January 03, 2025 @07:06PM (#42590861)
because it has a lot of land

Canada has a lot of land... but the majority of it is in the very cold northern part that people don't generally want to live in.

Re: by drewp on Friday January 03, 2025 @09:39PM (#42591836)
We're, uh, solving that problem
Re: by mmooss on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:00PM (#42590388)
It's fear-mongering for politics. It has nothing to do with economics or 'space'.
Re: by eastbound on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:08PM (#42590458)
There are only two countries on Earth that have a lot of physical space and expanding economies. As you admit, “The US has its own problems”, so it is not successful, and Australia too. So it is never welcomed by citizen, both the lowly and the H1B-level.

Also what do you mean with “lot of physical space”… May I remind you that this space is empty because, in both country, we have killed the locals.

I’m afraid you are considering Europe as “a lot of empty space”.

Re: by buzzert on Friday January 03, 2025 @07:25PM (#42590975)
> As you admit, “The US has its own problems”, so it is not successful

That's not at all what I was saying. I believe the US is wildly successful in integrating immigrants, since it is a nation of immigrants after all. Even the native population, which, despite what you said, was not entirely "killed". The indigenous population today owns a significant portion of land in the US and many tribes benefit significantly from using it or leasing it out (speaking from personal experience, the Agua Caliente and Apache tribes). Whether or not those tribes are "flourishing" is another fascinating story, but they certainly have the resources and potential.

Re: by eastbound on Saturday January 04, 2025 @03:05AM (#42593301)
I know that you sincerely believe in mixing up everyone in the same bag, but there are several bags. USA is no more successful than Europe at mixing immigrants. But USA has chosen for a long time that its immigrants were Irish, for example. And was mostly unsuccessful at integrating Mexicans, a lot of whom aren’t even given documents. What’s the difference between an Irish immigrant and an Algerian immigrant? I’ll leave it to your imagination but you can take all of the criminals from one population, the worst ones, ship them on a desert island, and you get Australia. While you can take all the best people from the other, give them wealth and infrastructure, schools and culture, and not have a single one that contributes to the home country.

USA has been successful at integrating the first kind, and the second one has just performed a nice illustration of their skills in New Orleans, like they do in my home country every year, and now every month, and one even said yesterday “We will rape all French people.”

Re: by dgfitz on Friday January 03, 2025 @06:11PM (#42590482)
This whole narrative of “our ancestors sucked, we now need to own that guilt” seems like a backwards way of moving forward.