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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by peutetre on Friday January 03, 2025 @01:39PM (#42588287)
The "but that's not the real Musk" game doesn't work anymore. They aren't "ill-advised" retweets. They are who and what he is. Increasingly they are all he is. Musk is the crank on Twitter.

Musk spends all day, every day showing you who and what he is. Believe him.

Here are two exercises for you:

1. Musk is keen on criticizing many governments, both foreign and domestic. Can you find for me a single criticism of the Chinese government from Musk?

2. Musk likes to spread conspiracy theories. Musk says he is a technologist. Musk says he knows a lot about computers. Musk says the last thing he would do is trust a computer program:

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/musk-pushes-debunked-...

Can you reconcile Musk's position that he would never trust a computer program with his claim that Tesla has a full-self driving computer program that does full autonomy (this time for sure!) and everyone should trust it (it will save lives!) and buy it and rent it and hail a robotaxi?

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by cbeach on Saturday January 04, 2025 @06:10AM (#42594022)
1. Why are you singling out China? Are you racist against the Chinese?

2. He was explaining that you cannot trust a computer to authenticate voters, and he's right.

Are those two points really the best evidence you have that Musk is a "white supremacist"?

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by peutetre on Saturday January 04, 2025 @06:14AM (#42594044)
> 1. Why are you singling out China? Are you racist against the Chinese?

So that's a "no" then. How do you account for that?

> 2. He was explaining that you cannot trust a computer to authenticate voters, and he's right.

No, he was falsely claiming that the 2020 election was rigged by Dominion voting machines. You haven't managed to reconcile the disconnect here.

You failed both exercises. Do you want to try again?

I'll wait.

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by dang on Sunday January 05, 2025 @01:29AM (#42600145)
If you keep breaking the site guidelines like this, we're going to have to ban you. We've already asked you more than once not to.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by dang on Sunday January 05, 2025 @01:29AM (#42600149)
Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by peutetre on Sunday January 05, 2025 @02:03AM (#42600242)
What flamewar. We're getting at the truth.

Getting at the truth is always uncomfortable. It hurts.

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by cbeach on Sunday January 05, 2025 @07:01AM (#42601229)
Okay, dang, my bad - I should never have replied to the comment in the first place.
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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by peutetre on Sunday January 05, 2025 @04:16PM (#42605116)
You don't have the intellectual honesty to admit to what's true, but you crumble the moment you're threatened.

This is unimpressive.

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by dang on Sunday January 05, 2025 @04:27PM (#42605202)
We've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines and ignoring multiple requests to stop.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by peutetre on Sunday January 05, 2025 @08:51PM (#42606742)
What is true matters more than your threats and your bans.
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Re:Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decl... by dang on Sunday January 05, 2025 @09:28PM (#42606994)
Indeed it does.
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