Much more still than hunger, you have to fight the “I would like to eat something” feeling.
None of that is true, but particularly the first part.
Hunger is what you feel when your ghrelin levels rise.
Ghrelin is one of many ways to feel hungry, and also has many other functions: also participates in regulation of reward cognition, learning and memory, the sleep-wake cycle, taste sensation, reward behavior, and glucose metabolism, for example. The exact mechanics of hormones in the body is far from being completely understood.
Independent of that, the fact that you know the name of an hormone, does not even remotely make my claim false. The question is “what triggers the ghrelin?”. Part of the answer is circadian timing (what I mean with “I would like to eat”) but also the body need for energy (start using reserves).
So yes ghrelin is involved. So what?
Which is fine(?), but usually these go to reddit.
Even more: He made a reasonable reply. You answered with an ad hominem. When you don't actually answer, it makes it look like you can't actually answer.
Everything in his first message is objectively false, specifically that hunger means your body is eating fat. That is wrong, wishful thinking, and made up. How can I be more clear?
And everything in the follow up response seems irrelevant, rambling, moving the goalpost. (Hence the LLM observation.)
> When you don't actually answer
When I don't answer what?
what I’m saying, is that one of many reasons (some of them even not even related to the digestive tract, you can also google that) influence the leves of that hormone, one of them, happens to be the triggering of fat reserves, AND/OR there are another paths from which you also can feel the urge to eat when the body starts using reserves.
I say A implies B, B implies C therefore A implies C (or maybe A implies C).
Where A is “body uses reserves”, B “hormone rises “, C “feel hunger”. You say B implies C, therefore A does not imply C. You are rambling and not being able to follow basic logic. Sorry. I’m not moving any posts here. You want to show you are right, please illuminate me: show me a serious article where it clearly states that there is absolutely no relation between the body using fat reserves and the sense of hunger. That would be new for me, and I can forward that to the MD specialist in diets that told me wrong.
I’m not claiming I’m expert, I could be wrong, I cleared say “I know it from somebody I trust“. But telling me, that because some hormone has a role in it, what I say is false, is an absolutely trivial falacy.
Regardless of whether you are factually correct, "I'm guessing that you are a bot, powered by someone's home-trained LLM", the likes of which "usually... go to reddit" is a personal attack. Don't do that here.
When did you not answer that? In the post I replied to, when you said exactly none of the things you said in this post to justify your position and disprove his.
It's not that hard. Give real argument. Don't give drive-by insults, no matter how appropriate you think they are.
I don't know what the science says, but from personal experience, this is false. I've lost weight without feeling hungry.
Mind to give more insight in how to loose weight without ever feeling the need to eat at all? There are thousands of books that claim that, but no one delivers… ask me how I know.
More extreme example: hunger typically subsides after approximately three days during a water fast (you eat nothing and no hunger)
Lots of overweight people have never been hungry in their whole life. They eat on a schedule, so have an appetite, but real hunger? Never more than the grumbles of an empty stomach.
But it would benefit them to not eat until they are hungry. Then have a small meal. Feel what it's like to be satiated, not full, just satiated. The notice how long it takes to feel hungry again.
Then try being really hungry. Like "I woke up from a deep sleep at 3am and felt a ravenous need to eat something".
I've found that my sense of hunger was reset by this process. I get hungry if I don't eat a meal, but it's not a big deal. I can ignore it. Another 6 hours and I'll start to be really hungry. Then I can have something small.
I don't find it hard to keep a healthy weight any more. It's not difficult to eat to a slight caloric deficit and lose weight if needed.
That is the way to begin the process of getting a little hungry and then appreciating it as it grows. Taking that extra time then makes finally eating more enjoyable, in my experience.
And your tip on fully chewing food is subtle but powerful. It's very much in the spirit of being more engaged in the moment, where gratitude settles us down and keeps our worries at bay, for at least some small moments.