Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away
by anon7000 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @11:40PM
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It is similarly the indigenous land of the Palestinians.
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Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away
by genman on Monday December 30, 2024 @05:24AM
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Like Americans and Canadians are not indigenous people of Northern America and Australians are not indigenous people of Australia, they are not. Arabs in Palestine are descendants of colonizers and settlers enabled by the colonial powers.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away
by 4gotunameagain on Monday December 30, 2024 @07:19AM
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> Arabs in Palestine are descendants of colonizers and settlers enabled by the colonial powers.
So the creation of a state by western colonial powers and the migration of jews from all over the world there does not make them descendants of colonizers and settlers, because they identify with some people mentioned in a two thousand year old book which says they lived there.Oh and they didn't even speak the same language, they had to revive it.
Right. Makes sense.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away
by genman on Thursday January 02, 2025 @01:21AM
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Their home was taken away by The Western Colonial Power - Rome. Jews are the only nation that was crushed by Rome, but survived without their land, all other such nations have perished. Restoring their homeland on their indigenous land was the only morally rightful thing to do when the descendants of Rome recaptured this territory.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away
by 4gotunameagain on Sunday January 05, 2025 @08:12AM
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I don't know what you are in need of more, history lessons or reasoning training.
Even if we ignore the fact that claims to land almost TWO THOUSAND years later are insane, even if we ignore the fact that the evidence is a two thousand year old book, claiming that modern day russian and hodgepodge jews from all over europe are descendants of the original inhabitants of the Levant is simply hilarious.
To create a national identity they even had to resurrect a dead language.
And without the UK creating the state of Israel purely as a western colony for geopolitical reasons, this would not be a discussion and so many lives would've been spared.
Re:President Jimmy Carter has passed away
by genman on Saturday January 11, 2025 @05:28PM
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You could have just written that you hate Jews. Could have been shorter. If we inherited the Rome, we also inherited its moral debts. The uniqueness of the situation of Jews doesn't invalidate our moral obligations. Brits could have claimed the Palestine for themselves - it was a Roman Christian territory after all, they chose to do the only moral thing imaginable - restoration of Jewish homeland in Palestine.