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Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by dartos on Sunday December 29, 2024 @08:34AM (#42539835)
“Political” and “decentralized” Are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, any platform that uses decentralization as a selling point is inherently political, as the only ones that care about decentralization are the ones who care about politics.

Everyone else is just trying to see what the famous person said last week or what their friend did on vacation.

Corpo social media does solve for that.

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by swed420 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @09:56AM (#42540318)
> “Political” and “decentralized” Are not mutually exclusive.

> any platform that uses decentralization as a selling point is inherently political

This hasn't said anything of value, since everything is political.

Limiting your interaction with the world to sanitized corporate/Hollywood social media is political. Using no social media at all is political. And so on.

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by dartos on Sunday December 29, 2024 @11:45AM (#42541026)
> This hasn't said anything of value, since everything is political.

I really disagree with this statement. Many things are political, but not everything. (Unless you’re abstracting the word political to the point of it meaning any human relationship. At which point the word isn’t useful)

Some choices are just convenience.

Most people with an iPhone don’t choose to text on messenger because of a political opinion, it’s just because it’s the default app on their phone.

I use discord frequently because all of my friends are on there, not because I particularly care for their politics.

My choice to not use social media sites like fb and Twitter was fueled by mental health concerns and the time I’d sink into them, not because they lean left or right.

> Limiting your interaction with the world to sanitized corporate/Hollywood social media is political.

Not necessarily. Most people don’t know they’re limiting their interaction.

They just want updates about things they care about. That need not be about politics.

Just because a choice may have political ramifications doesn’t mean that it was a choice made for political reasons.

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by swed420 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:12PM (#42541230)
> Some choices are just convenience. > Most people don’t know they’re limiting their interaction.

Sure, but they often carry political implications (even if the choice/chooser was unconscious of them)

> Most people with an iPhone don’t choose to text on messenger because of a political opinion, it’s just because it’s the default app on their phone.

That's not the best example to make your point considering many people see iPhones (and its "exclusive" text bubble color) as an economic and social class signifier.

The insane planned obsolescence model of the iPhone necessitating constant replacement has environmental consequences, etc. Once again, the end user being unaware of all of this does not prevent it from still being very real.

> Just because a choice may have political ramifications doesn’t mean that it was a choice made for political reasons.

Never said otherwise. A reminder of what I replied to:

> In fact, any platform that uses decentralization as a selling point is inherently political, as the only ones that care about decentralization are the ones who care about politics.

My original point was that merely "avoiding political things" by using platform Y instead of Z does not exempt one from being political. The act of choosing to opt out of politics in this way or any other is literally political and has real consequences.

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by robertlagrant on Sunday December 29, 2024 @04:42PM (#42543541)
This seems like a category error. Topics that have political aspects, e.g. environmentalism, also have non-political aspects.

Also, it just seems like an excuse for mob mentality. It's "if you're not for us you're against us" with extra steps.

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by swed420 on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:29PM (#42543996)
Being politically conscious instead of proudly checking out to the Soma drip feed of sanitized media is not mob mentality. Though, the minority holders of the majority of capital would very much like people to parrot such nonsense.
Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by robertlagrant on Sunday December 29, 2024 @06:01PM (#42544313)
"If you're not with us you're against us" is the basest way to be politically conscious, not the only way.
Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by dartos on Sunday December 29, 2024 @07:46PM (#42545148)
> by using platform Y instead of Z does not exempt one from being political

That’s… exactly what I was saying with “ any platform that uses decentralization as a selling point is inherently political”…

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by swed420 on Monday December 30, 2024 @10:21AM (#42550032)
Yes, but you implied (intentionally or not) the inverse is not true, which is the point I'm making.

Any platform that uses "not decentralized" as a selling point is also political. The inverse of Political Thing is still political.

Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by dartos on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @08:50AM (#42558693)
Saying A is true doesn’t imply that the inverse of A is not true…
Re:I'm trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again by threatofrain on Sunday December 29, 2024 @10:50AM (#42540617)
Decentralization is political because even from a sniff test it is very very concerned about evading existing centers of power.

Common Lisp is not political. Technical people might say it is political, but non-technical people outside would just chuckle at the conversation — nerds fighting among themselves in an unseen corner with no power, thinking that there's "politics" there and perhaps everywhere too.