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Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by Permit on Monday July 16, 2012 @11:38PM (#4253957)
>While I do not doubt the logical validity of the skeptics positions, there is nevertheless a large body of evidence (circumstantial though it may be) which becomes difficult to deny when taken in the aggregate.

I think it's incredibly important to remember that the plural of "anecdote" is not "data".

Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by andrewfelix on Monday July 16, 2012 @11:45PM (#4253976)
Exactly. You could argue that God exists based on witness accounts.
Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by ktizo on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @12:53AM (#4254150)
I know god exists. elvis told me only last week, and the king never lies.
Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by calebmpeterson on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @02:37AM (#4254441)
> I think it's incredibly important to remember that the plural of "anecdote" is not "data".

Honestly, where is the barrier between the two? I'm not suggesting it doesn't exist, just genuinely asking where it is, or at least where it's near?

Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by grimboy on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @03:05AM (#4254534)
Well, roughly and someone may have a better answer. Data is collected in a structured, systematic way, and the sample is carefully chosen. Anecdotes are not structured or collected in a systematic way, but worst of all the sample you've taken is the people who've chosen to speak up.
Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by nazgulnarsil on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @03:50AM (#4254684)
Anecdotes ignore selection effects. Data tries to control for them.
Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by c3d on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @04:00AM (#4254711)
Why would radar recordings or radioactive soil samples not count as data (in the same sense that fossils are data)?
Re:Newly released UFO files from the UK government by VMG on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @04:41AM (#4254821)
If we assume that the readings are actually showing a physical phenomena and are not technical errors or forgeries, they are still just that: an unexplained radar recording and an unexplained radioactive soil sample. There is no reason to jump to the conclusion that ETs are responsible.