Re:All You Need Is 4x 4090 GPUs to Train Your Own Model
by minimaxir on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:50AM
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It's a force of habit, parameters would be more accurate (almost everyone uses them interchangeably nowadays)
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Re:All You Need Is 4x 4090 GPUs to Train Your Own Model
by unixpickle on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:56AM
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Wait what? Who actually calls trainable params "hyperparameters"? Nobody at OpenAI does, as far as I know.
Re:All You Need Is 4x 4090 GPUs to Train Your Own Model
by minimaxir on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:04AM
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People who are making quick social media posts while taking a casual walk outside on websites that don't make it easy to edit posts and are not expecting to be nitpicked about it.
Overall, it's something I've seen very often on social media and less technical articles about LLMs. OpenAI would fall into the "almost" category.
Re:All You Need Is 4x 4090 GPUs to Train Your Own Model
by llm_nerd on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:31PM
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It's okay to say that you mistyped or whatever, while taking a casual walk outside on websites that don't make it easy to edit posts and are not expected to be nitpicked about it. Throwing in that everyone uses them interchangeably, however, is just profoundly wrong on every level.
I wasn't nitpicking. It is a HUGE differentiation, and I pointed it out specifically because people pick up on terminology so people who might not know better will go forward and just drop in the more super duper hyperparameter, not realizing that it makes them look like they don't know what they're talking about. As I said in the other post, no one who knows anything uses them interchangeably. It is just completely wrong.
Re:All You Need Is 4x 4090 GPUs to Train Your Own Model
by minimaxir on Sunday December 29, 2024 @03:42PM
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Again, I've heard and used the terminology "model hyperparameter" in place of "model parameter", and I've also heard "model parameter" in place of "model hyperparameter" because not every human interaction is a paper on arXiv and the terms are obviously very similar. The context of the term is what matters in the end (as demonstrated by other comments following my correct intent), and society will not crumble if using either term incorrectly in casual conversation. No one intentionally uses the wrong term, but as jokingly said in another comment "when you get really deep into model training, it can seem like there are a billion hyperparameters you have to worry about."
You are the one who asked for my opinion based on my extensive time in AI, you can choose to believe it or not.