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Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by isodev on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:23AM (#42537764)
> does the concern still apply?

Yes it does and the blogpost specifically explains why.

In short, both iOS and macOS are full of bugs, often with the potential of exposing sensitive information.

Also, it’s on by default - nobody in their sane mind would have bits of their photos uploaded somewhere, regardless of “we promise we won’t look”.

Finally, Photos in iOS 18 is such a bad experience that it seems the breach of privacy was fundamentally unjustified as no meaningful improvement was introduced at all.

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by Thorrez on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:44AM (#42537864)
>regardless of “we promise we won’t look”.

AIUI, even if Apple's servers tried to look, they cannot, because of the encryption.

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by isodev on Sunday December 29, 2024 @12:53AM (#42537923)
Encryption does not automatically mean secure. Encryptions can and will be broken. Any flaw in their implementation (which nobody can verify) would render encryption useless…
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by supriyo-biswas on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:01AM (#42537957)
I wonder where you'd draw the line.

Do you also distrust TLS for example, and therefore refuse to use the internet? What about AES/Chacha for full-disk encryption?

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by isodev on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:11AM (#42538014)
The line is very simple - my content stays on device, secured (locally) with the current modern and practical tools.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by Thorrez on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:16AM (#42538030)
Sure, but it's more than a promise that they won't look. Apple currently believes it's impossible to look.
Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by isodev on Sunday December 29, 2024 @04:27AM (#42538813)
Apple is not a person, they don’t “believe” anything.

As a corporation, they “calculate” what they can say without getting into more trouble than they’re willing to entertain.

Re:Apple Photos phones home on iOS 18 and macOS 15 by Thorrez on Monday December 30, 2024 @05:35PM (#42554300)
Apple is a group of people. It's not run by AI. I was specifically talking about the people in Apple who work on the feature and wrote the documentation for the feature.