Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by bdangubic on Saturday December 28, 2024 @07:57PM
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^^ what he said ^^
Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by master_crab on Saturday December 28, 2024 @09:56PM
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This is correct and yet kinda misses the point. The market exists specifically because of one of the most fundamental and basic of government functions: who is allowed to enter the country and work. Those market economics revolves around whatever the government decides to do: firstly when it created the H1B system and now when all the politicians are arguing over how to handle the abuse of the program.
I’d call it something more along the lines of “regulatory capture” than a freely operating market.
Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by rbanffy on Sunday December 29, 2024 @11:54AM
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> regulatory capture
It's been like that for quite some time. A lot of political power coming from economic power is a sure way for a democracy to transition into a kleptocracy.
Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by jollyllama on Sunday December 29, 2024 @05:40PM
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No, you missed the point of the GP. The companies don't want them because they are cheaper, they want them because they have less rights.
> who have no option to leave for a better opportunity or higher pay (or to unionize)
The companies don't want cheaper labor. They want slave labor.
Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by rbanffy on Monday December 30, 2024 @12:55PM
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You are missing the point: if they have fewer rights, they are cheaper in the long run.
Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by jollyllama on Tuesday December 31, 2024 @10:03AM
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Perhaps we're getting into semantics. Sure, fewer rights necessarily implies cheaper, but not the other way around. "Cheaper" alone fails to get to the heart of the matter.
Re:Trump sides with Musk on support for H-1B visas for forei...
by cmxch on Monday December 30, 2024 @11:03AM
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As stated up thread, treat that as an externality that the business ends up paying to the citizens. Offer them an opportunity to fully uncap their favorite programs on the condition that a large chunk of total compensation (with minimums and locality adjustments) will be paid to citizens that essentially doubles or triples most citizen salaries.
In market terms, H1B workers are simply a better product - slightly cheaper (because companies can game the system) and more predictable (because they can’t show the employer the middle finger).