How can that be true though?

Are you and Elon saying that India’s education system and universities are just plain better than MIT, Stanford, etc?

If not, then are Indians just genetically smarter than Americans, so that their pool is better?

It just seems like immigrants are willing to work more for less, so that in the future when they’re citizens, they can work less for more.

Working more for less is the issue, that's exactly what this boils down to.

Yes, it’s a major component at least. I’ve wondered if there should be protections against this to maintain some baseline of safety for people’s workloads, but that would never fly in North America as far as I can tell. And it could actually harm some people who legitimately need to work overtime to take care of their families.

Sorry, I wasn’t making a case for that argument. I’m only pointing out that it exists, it’s a prominent way of thinking, and it’s worth considering.

I don’t personally subscribe to that belief.

Mass layoffs are generally not that discriminating. Because they don't want the news to leak in advance, it's usually a circle of the top brass and the HR department that decides who goes. And with mass layoffs, it's usually entire teams not just people who were on performance plans. Hence, I don't think their argument is good. I have little against importing talent when there is a shortage[1], but mass layoffs are good evidence that there is not.

[1] Well, except when the country fails to invest enough in education and training. It's wrong for the UK, for example, to consistently not fund enough medical students, and make up for it by importing staff educated by third world countries.

And once they are hear the H1B somewhat locks then into an employer gutter damping salaries

It’s spelt here. To hear means to use your ears.

Small tangent but I’ve seen a sharp increase in typos in the front page comments throughout December. Very surprising to me (I’ve been here since 2016.)