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Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by wkat4242 on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:30AM (#42529494)
Yes and no. Ecall is but telemetry is not. And ecall only makes a call in case of a crash.
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by M95D on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:58AM (#42529611)
The GSM SIM cards, by design, can be remotely updated to do whatever the service provider wants (or asked "nicely", or paid to do).

https://www.thalesgroup.com/en/markets/digital-identity-and-...

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by wkat4242 on Saturday December 28, 2024 @04:09AM (#42529655)
I know, and they can be hacked too through sms messages.

But the sim card doesn't have access to the car telemetry. Probably even the whole baseband module doesn't. It just gets that data to transmit when an accident happens.

The worst you could do by hacking the SIM is to make the modem send nearby cell data somewhere. Which is serious enough because the rough location can be derived from it. But it's a far cry from what these manufacturers collect.

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by NewJazz on Saturday December 28, 2024 @04:07AM (#42529650)
Or if the service provider is served a warrant, or if they're hacked.
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by eliaspro on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:49AM (#42529580)
Ecall could/should use completely separate communications infrastructure than the entertainment/vehicle connectivity functionality.
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by wkat4242 on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:52AM (#42529587)
That's difficult because both will need to use the cell network.

But I guess you mean on the car side like two modems? Yeah that would be nice, or at least to mandate the option to turn all manufacturer telemetry completely off. The EU never bothered to do this for computers and phones either though.