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Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by mulmen on Friday December 27, 2024 @09:44PM (#42528140)
Why would turning on the heating require cell service? If you’re out of key fob range do you really need to pre-heat the car?

The only possible use of cell service is for infotainment and even that’s questionable in a world of ubiquitous cell phones.

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by jazzyjackson on Friday December 27, 2024 @11:01PM (#42528448)
I like the 'call emergency services on airbag deployment' too, on the fence about removing it, I guess if I had an apple watch that could do the same thing but then I'm just moving the surveillance from one ecosystem to another
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by queuep on Saturday December 28, 2024 @12:38AM (#42528868)
Schedule heating etc through their app
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by mulmen on Saturday December 28, 2024 @05:30AM (#42530002)
The car can't keep time? How is the dashboard clock always right?
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by creshal on Saturday December 28, 2024 @06:15AM (#42530220)
That's two different components, so they're made by two separate cottage industries in two different states to make sure you have leverage on more politicians. Connecting the two would increase the BOM by $0.1, which means a $1000 increase in retail price, and customers don't want to pay that, so clearly everything is the customers' fault.

(/s)

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by mulmen on Sunday December 29, 2024 @01:42PM (#42541899)
All the clocks in my BMW were synchronized.
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by fastasucan on Saturday December 28, 2024 @10:14AM (#42531593)
It can keep time, but how can you schedule remotely?
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by fastasucan on Saturday December 28, 2024 @03:03AM (#42529404)
>If you’re out of key fob range do you really need to pre-heat the car?

Yeah, that can save 15 minutes of scraping the windows for snow and ice in the morning and afternoon.

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by mulmen on Saturday December 28, 2024 @05:31AM (#42530009)
Sure that takes a lot of time but why would the car be out of fob range? If you care about 15 minutes of scraping snow why is the car parked out of fob range and also still in cell service somehow?
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by Glant on Saturday December 28, 2024 @07:44AM (#42530675)
I live in an apartment building on the side that faces the woods. I obviously have to park on the other side, and my fob doesn't reach. I don't care about remote start anyways, but there are absolutely situations where fobs can't reach but cell service can.
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by fastasucan on Saturday December 28, 2024 @10:19AM (#42531638)
People hating having to scrape their car in the morning doesn't help them getting a parking spot closer to their work place or their home.

If they had a garage next to their house to park their car they wouldn't need either. However there are lots of situations where the car isn't close yet it need pre heating. For me this is driving the car to and from work in the winter, and certain one off situations (going home from the hospital, picking up the car after avriving at the train station).

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by Rohansi on Saturday December 28, 2024 @04:20PM (#42534853)
I do this all the time. Don't even have a fob to begin with but it's very convenient when you're in a shopping mall and are going to make your way back to the car, for example.

Also handy to find your car if you manage forget where you parked for some reason. Or to set a destination for GPS navigation.

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by mihaaly on Saturday December 28, 2024 @05:16PM (#42535287)
Putting your PIN on the back of your credit card is the most convenient thing. It is always there when you need it, no need to remember!

Marginal knicknacks vs. serious risks kind of thing here.

Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by Rohansi on Saturday December 28, 2024 @06:51PM (#42535992)
The risks are not even comparable, IMO. I would rather take these conveniences because I don't think anyone would care to use that information against me if it was leaked. But many people would gladly use a credit card with PIN written on it.
Re:VW Suffers Major Breach Exposing Location of 800k Electri... by mihaaly on Sunday December 29, 2024 @02:53AM (#42538405)
An analogy does not mean it is around the level. ;D

It wasn't even the point of analogy dear. Help: the benefit/risk ratio is the point.

What you think about using information is different to what criminals think about using the information of anyone using the product. Not you is the point here, wrong orientation again. Everyone have the superfluous knicknacks, and everyone had their data leaked.

Maybe if you think you will not loose your credit card, you are much more organized for that or whatever superpower makes it so, or there will be no-one to take significant ammount from it, then please, write your PIN on the back. For you precious convenience. Better yet, have everyone's PIN written on it!! : /

Sorry for the bitter sarcasm, but I hate so much the self centered reasoning in something that is for everyone, you kind of people ruin things for all of us by allowing, even asking for fiddle-faddle tacky things, that expose all the rest to risks and dangers!