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Re:Missiles Are Now the Biggest Killer of Airline Passengers by tehjoker on Friday December 27, 2024 @11:49AM (#42523701)
Important to note that it was a panic about an alleged chinese spy balloon, but in all likelihood it was just a weather balloon. There was no proof it was a spy balloon.
Re:Missiles Are Now the Biggest Killer of Airline Passengers by mattmaroon on Friday December 27, 2024 @12:35PM (#42524153)
Ummm, no. We recovered the balloons and they were full of surveillance equipment.

They seemed to not have a way to phone home, so more than likely China’s plan was to recover the balloon to get the data. That may be what you recall. For all we know they had been doing so for years successfully.

But they were definitely spy balloons.

Re:Missiles Are Now the Biggest Killer of Airline Passengers by jameshart on Friday December 27, 2024 @02:01PM (#42524994)
The US downed and recovered a Chinese balloon, not balloons.

The 2023 incident is pretty well written up on Wikipedia[1].

There was one Chinese surveillance balloon that was shot down. Subsequent shoot-downs of balloons over the arctic and Great Lakes were not attributed to China - one that was recovered was definitively identified as a private weather balloon.

There were also previous Chinese surveillance balloon overflights - as well as one over Central America - that were not shot down.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Chinese_balloon_incident

Re:Missiles Are Now the Biggest Killer of Airline Passengers by indymike on Friday December 27, 2024 @12:52PM (#42524319)
> in all likelihood it was just a weather balloon

Normal weather balloons are 20ft in diameter. This one was 200 feet in diameter and carried quite a payload - about the size of a couple of box cars. Additionally it had propellers and the ability to steer itself.

> There was no proof it was a spy balloon.

There was a preponderance of evidence - from the route of the balloon (over US strategic nuclear missle silos), to the equipment that was recovered to radio intercptions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Chinese_balloon_incident

Re:Missiles Are Now the Biggest Killer of Airline Passengers by jandrese on Friday December 27, 2024 @01:03PM (#42524421)
This is also why there was reluctance to shoot the balloon down until it had passed over the ocean. The enormous payload container was a definite threat to life and limb if shot down over a populated area, and most of the US has at least a token population.
Re:Missiles Are Now the Biggest Killer of Airline Passengers by zitterbewegung on Friday December 27, 2024 @04:22PM (#42526163)
It’s also much easier to do less damage on the drone itself by shooting it over water than land. Honestly I think that played a major factor where they shot it down.