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Re:GPT-5 is behind schedule by ninetyninenine on Monday December 23, 2024 @05:13AM (#42493294)
The definition of agi is a linguistic problem but people confuse it for a philosophical problem. Think about it. The term is basically just a classification and what features and qualities fit the classification is an arbitrary and linguistic choice.

The debate stems from a delusion and failure to realize that people are simply picking and choosing different fringe features on what qualifies as agi. Additionally the term exists in a fuzzy state inside our minds as well. It’s not that the concept is profound. It’s that some of the features that define the classification of the term we aren’t sure about. But this doesn’t matter because we are basically just unsure about the definition of a term that we completely made up arbitrarily.

For example the definition of consciousness seems like a profound debate but it’s not. The word consciousness is a human invention and the definition is vague because we choose the definition to be ill defined, vague and controversial.

Much of the debate on this stuff is purely as I stated just a language issue.

Re:GPT-5 is behind schedule by zifpanachr23 on Monday December 23, 2024 @03:31PM (#42497354)
If it's genuinely what you say, then how is what is going on not slavery?

I don't believe AGI is possible but if it was and it was as subjective as you say what is and isn't conscious, then it starts to take on an even more altogether evil character.

Akin to cloning slave humans or something for free cheap labor.

Re:GPT-5 is behind schedule by ninetyninenine on Monday December 23, 2024 @08:46PM (#42499032)
how does a linguistic and language issue relate to slavery. It's the definition of a word. That's all.

Slavery is also a word. Don’t you find it strange that your entire moral framework is constructed on top of the basis of arbitrary definitions of vocabulary? Make what you think is right or wrong based not off of language. Language is a delusion that masquerades as something with actual meaning when it is just an invention, a tool, to facilitate communication.

Right now your concept of right and wrong is a vocabulary issue. Does this make sense? No.