Re:The Challenge of Making Friends as an Adult
by sliverstorm on Monday July 16, 2012 @01:36AM
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the only reason anyone would want to be around Steve is because of the money, the power and the fame?
You completely miss the point- it isn't that nobody could like Steve as a person. It's that, how can Steve tell who likes Steve and who just likes Steve's money?
That test really only happens in truly-down-in-the-dumps or life-and-death situations.
Re:The Challenge of Making Friends as an Adult
by mcguire on Monday July 16, 2012 @04:03PM
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That would kinda be the point.
How so?
Re:The Challenge of Making Friends as an Adult
by PakG1 on Tuesday July 17, 2012 @01:17AM
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Because it is during those periods when you need your friends the most and when it is most inconvenient/difficult for fake friends to come to your aid. It is naturally the most effective way to separate the wheat from the chaff, even though it may not be a nice process.
Re:The Challenge of Making Friends as an Adult
by msellout on Monday July 16, 2012 @05:34PM
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It's easier to demonstrate a counterfactual than to prove the theorem. Therefore the burden of proof should be on you to demonstrate the counterfactual.
I don't think you're wrong, I'm just asking for some elaboration.
Re:The Challenge of Making Friends as an Adult
by wpietri on Monday July 16, 2012 @09:09AM
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Are you being intentionally obtuse?
You were talking about "wanting to be around because of a person's fame or money" being just another reason to be around. The "You like your friends; you like the rich guy's money" is just a way of restating your apparent original claim.
So coming back and saying, well, Steve Jobs is interesting, is missing by a mile what you're responding to.
Oh?
So you think that there aren't a large number of rich people that are interesting and have achieved something which is the reason they are rich? And it would be great to spend some time with them?
Steve Jobs was rich and had power and fame. So the only reason anyone would want to be around Steve is because of the money, the power and the fame? Or Larry Ellison? Or Warren Buffet? Or even Paul Graham? He's doing ok and I'm sure he would be interesting to be around even for people who have no interest in the startup scene and nothing to gain by knowing Paul.
But even if someone was born into money for that matter then as a result of having money they also could be interesting and nice to be around for exactly that reason. Or at least entertaining (the Kennedy's come to mind..)