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Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by fakedang on Saturday December 21, 2024 @11:25AM (#42480514)
Hamas also has a nasty habit of calling certain veterans "journalists". Although I don't dispute Israel killing journalists (they did kill Shireen Abu Akleh https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Shireen_Abu_Akleh), I would question that number.

Also, Al Jazeera has a habit of hiring freelance journalists and putting them in exacting situations without a care for their consequence. When they do die, Al Jazeera makes a hue and cry out of it because it serves their agenda and resonates very well with their audience (especially their Arabic reporting audience).

Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by MomsAVoxell on Saturday December 21, 2024 @02:13PM (#42481553)
Anyone has a right to be a journalist. This right shall not be abrogated by any state.
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by fakedang on Saturday December 21, 2024 @03:16PM (#42481971)
So armed gun toting terrorists qualify to called journalists because they're wearing a press jacket?
Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by talldayo on Saturday December 21, 2024 @03:47PM (#42482163)
Flip that statement on it's head. What respectable nation would fire upon a suspect in a press jacket without actually knowing who it is first? Who orders artillery and airstrikes on known press positions? Soviet doctrine? Countries with WWII logistics?

Seems clear to me that this is a deliberate campaign of terror constructed by the IDF to deter any form of independent journalism in Gaza. No different than hasbara or the Hannibal Directive - orders passed down from the top get obeyed, even if it costs the truth or innocent lives.

Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by fakedang on Saturday December 21, 2024 @04:17PM (#42482381)
Like I said, Israel is also often complicit in the murder of legit journalists. But you claim that Israel actively makes it a part of their doctrine to actively target and murder journalists in a bid to repress opposing media voices. I say, it's more Israel treating press as collateral damage - "Here, these are our targets (Israel always publishes airstrike and artillery strike positions online and offline). If they evacuate, good. If they don't, they die. We can't be bothered."

And media outlets like Al Jazeera will literally push their (often zealous) journalists to go to these frontlines, right where the targets are.

My journalist classmate, who worked for Al Jazeera as a videographer in Jordan and the West Bank, would tell us incidents where Al Jazeera (an outlet he joined out of wide-eyed positivity as college graduates have) would often give marching orders for their teams to be at the front lines of whatever protest was taking place in the WB. They would be the ones often directly facing off the IDF.

Re:US judge finds Israel's NSO Group liable for hacking jour... by talldayo on Saturday December 21, 2024 @04:09PM (#42482312)
> Hamas also has a nasty habit of calling certain veterans "journalists".

Ah, kinda like how Israel has a nasty habit of calling their military reservists "innocent civilians" when they're attacked? Or is it more like when they call the Golan Heights colonists "citizens" of a universally unrecognized occupation?

Lot of complex vocabulary here. I invite you to link as many cases of falsely-identified journalist deaths as you can find though. It sounds like a big issue, judging from your tone.

> When they do die, Al Jazeera makes a hue and cry out of it because it serves their agenda and resonates very well with their audience

It could also be that killing civilians is a bad thing, and when Israel ignores the directly communicated press positions it exposes their indifference to collateral damage.