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Re:Conda: A Package Management Disaster? by michaelmrose on Friday December 20, 2024 @02:15PM (#42473967)
Intelligent systems simply cache and re-use versions and do stash deps for every toy project without consuming space.

Also installing everything with pip is a great way to enjoy unexplainable breakage when a Doesn't work with v1 and b doesn't work with v2.

It also leads to breaking Linux systems where a large part of the system is python code. Especially where user upgrades system python for no reason.

Re:Conda: A Package Management Disaster? by wakawaka28 on Friday December 20, 2024 @02:45PM (#42474281)
If you install a package in a fresh environment then it does actually get installed. It can be inherited from the global environment but I don't think disparate venvs that separately install a package actually share the package files. If they did, then a command executed in one tree could destroy the files in another tree. I have not done an investigation to look into this today but I think I'm right about this.
Re:Conda: A Package Management Disaster? by michaelmrose on Friday December 20, 2024 @08:10PM (#42476699)
In better designed systems than python they do. To share them with python you need something with dedup. Eg BTRFS ZFS
Re:Conda: A Package Management Disaster? by wakawaka28 on Saturday December 21, 2024 @03:08PM (#42481924)
Python's venv design is not obviously unintelligent. It must work on all sorts of filesystems, which limits how many copies can be stored and how they can be associated. More advanced filesystems can support saving space explicitly for software that exploits them, and implicitly for everyone, but there is a cost to everything.