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Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by antonyt on Friday December 20, 2024 @12:07AM (#42468438)
Yeah, I’m having a hard time imagining how no-wake-word could work in practice.
Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by fragmede on Friday December 20, 2024 @01:44AM (#42468837)
after setting up the system, if I say "turn the ceiling lights to 20%", who else would be changing the lights?

But also, post-fix wake word would also be natural if it was recording all the time. "turn on the lights, Google", for instance

Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by TheCoelacanth on Friday December 20, 2024 @12:04PM (#42472751)
Someone in a TV show that you're watching?
Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by joshstrange on Saturday December 21, 2024 @07:53AM (#42479383)
I’ve never had Alexa control a device via a TV show’ audio but playing back a video of me testing my home automation (“Alex, do X”) triggered my lights.

I’d love a no-wake-word world where something locally was always chewing on what you said but I’m not sure how well it would work in practice.

I think it would only take 1-2 instances of it hearing “Hey, who turned off the lights?” in a show turning off my lights for real (and scaring the crap out of me). Doctor Who isn’t particularly scary but if I was watching Silence in the Library and that line turned off my lights I’d be spoked and it would take me a hot minute to realize what happened.

Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by danparsonson on Friday December 20, 2024 @06:21PM (#42476125)
Sure, if the system is set up to only respond to very specific commands that humans would not respond to, I guess that could work. I was thinking more about the other way around, where a person might speak to someone else in the room and be overheard and acted upon - "turn on the lights!" could be a command for the computer controlling the room, or the human standing next to the Christmas tree, for example.
Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by ethbr1 on Friday December 20, 2024 @08:18AM (#42470838)
Like that really annoying friend who jumps in every other sentence with "Well actually..."
Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by marcosdumay on Friday December 20, 2024 @10:56AM (#42472167)
I have a coworker that set up an Alexa an year or so ago, I don't know what was the issue, but it would jump into Teams meetings after every noise in his house.
Re:The era of open voice assistants has arrived by lukifer on Friday December 20, 2024 @02:06PM (#42473855)
This is one advantage of a system with a constrained set of commands/grammars, as opposed to the Alexa/Siri model of trying to process all arbitrary text while in active mode. It can simply ignore/discard any invocations which don't match those specific grammars (and no need to wait to confirm that the device is awake).

"Computer, turn lights to 50%" -> "turn lights to fifty percent" -> {action: "lights", value: 50}

"My new computer has a really beefy graphics card" -> "has a really beefy graphics card" -> {action: null}