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Re:OpenERV by 20after4 on Monday December 16, 2024 @12:34AM (#42428231)
That kind of depends on where you live. And this can be combined with air filtration.
Re:OpenERV by PittleyDunkin on Monday December 16, 2024 @12:35AM (#42428235)
Definitely in some places, but is there a region where outdoor air is so clean you don't need this device?
Re:OpenERV by macrolime on Monday December 16, 2024 @03:38AM (#42429116)
The ERV itself is for removing CO2, not dust. Especially in cold climates where houses are built to be as air-tight as possible, these are a necessity. Even if you lived in a forest cabin you'd want filters to prevent too much dust and pollen. I've got a dual filter on mine, HEPA and activated carbon filter. The HEPA filter removes dust and pollen. I've found that if I don't use the carbon filter I get higher than recommended levels of NOx.
Re:OpenERV by open_erv2 on Monday December 16, 2024 @08:42AM (#42430849)
You can add a filter to the TW4, there is an adapter/kit. It's a hepa filter from a car cabin filter system design. You rarely need both anti pollen and also ERV, so you would take the heat exchanger out and just use the filter and fan. As for dust, I recommend a good pc fan filter based appliance, not putting the filter in the flow path of the ERV.
Re:OpenERV by viraptor on Monday December 16, 2024 @12:47AM (#42428288)
Almost any place away from cities. I've got AQI <30, down to 5 or so, almost the whole year for example. (Apart from during an occasional bushfire)

Cities and industrial sites are the exception with bad air quality, not the default.

Re:OpenERV by vineyardmike on Monday December 16, 2024 @02:04AM (#42428670)
To be fair, "cities are the exception with bad air" neglects the reality that cities are the default for where people live. So the "air near people" is generally city air.

That said, I live in SF and my AQI is usually <50. Not as great as 5, but we sometimes get down to single-digits. Cities don't have to have bad air.

Re:OpenERV by cyberax on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:28AM (#42428477)
That depends, really. If you have an inversion layer going, you can get pretty poor air quality in lots of locations because people use crappy wood-fired stoves that produce a lot of particulates.
Re:OpenERV by 20after4 on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:42AM (#42428556)
That does happen occasionally where I live, last night for example. But it's only a single digit number of days out of a year. The rest of the time air quality is very good.
Re:OpenERV by amluto on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:01AM (#42428348)
The filtration is icing on the cake. You want an HRV or ERV in any location where you want heating or cooling for any non-negligible portion of the year so that you can have energy efficient fresh air.
Re:OpenERV by jeroenhd on Monday December 16, 2024 @03:53AM (#42429206)
Most people here just open a window when they want to air out a room. That said, that does waste a lot of energy when heating/cooling your home on cold/hot days, so ERVs and HRVs are used to get the clean air in without exchanging heat with the outside world too much. They're quite cheap and effective compared to just running normal ventilation.
Re:OpenERV by dzhiurgis on Monday December 16, 2024 @02:01AM (#42428654)
I live in small town on NZ coast. Air is very clean. Mosquitos and neighbor's wood burners don't care. ERV is top 3 item in my house (other than induction cooktop and Japanese toilets).
Re:OpenERV by willvarfar on Monday December 16, 2024 @03:20AM (#42429028)
(ok nodding to ERV and induction cooktops, but what is a japanese toilet and why are they better?

Haven't heard of them from grand-designs and those kind of youtubers)

Re:OpenERV by kla-s on Monday December 16, 2024 @03:54AM (#42429211)
- auto lid open and close - heated seat - water jet to clean buttocks with subsequent warm air blower - relaxing music speaker (to drown out your defecating sounds and get you started)

just some ideas what some (public)/most (nice home) japanese toilets offer, which might be hard to come by anywhere else

Re:OpenERV by dzhiurgis on Monday December 16, 2024 @04:52AM (#42429557)
> hard to come by

They are $200-300 online. Not Toto quality, but plenty good enough.

Re:OpenERV by ajolly on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @01:46PM (#42453503)
This is the first I've heard of auto lid open and close!
Re:OpenERV by dzhiurgis on Wednesday December 18, 2024 @04:15PM (#42455304)
Only available on expensive models. Seat heating and washing are the key features.
Re:OpenERV by block_dagger on Monday December 16, 2024 @12:43AM (#42428263)
I live near a ten lane highway. I prefer to keep the outdoor air out, and the indoor air filtered. I could see this being very useful for other dwellings though.
Re:OpenERV by amluto on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:00AM (#42428341)
You are either already failing to keep outdoor air out or you are getting too little ventilation. What you want is something like this device with the H13 filter option. Maybe that plus carbon.
Re:OpenERV by positr0n on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:59AM (#42428645)
Think of it this way, since you aren't dying of asphyxiation when you sleep at night, you're already getting some air exchange with the outside air.

With an ERV you can control how much air you get, and put whatever filter you want in between the outside air and your room.

In fact the fancier systems will let you overpressure your house by running the fan pushing in slightly higher than the air pushing out, ensure air only leaks out of your house not in.