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Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by freedomben on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:52PM (#42426818)
Can anyone confirm this? If this is true, this is huge news and highly consequential
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by lilhenry on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:12PM (#42426899)
It’s the same with Hisense tvs
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by Loughla on Sunday December 15, 2024 @08:44PM (#42427291)
Can confirm. If you don't give vizio Wi-Fi access it functions as a dumb tv.

This is why I purchase Vizio instead of other brands. I don't need my television loaded with a ton of apps I'll never use.

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by rendaw on Sunday December 15, 2024 @11:45PM (#42428071)
That's different than what GP said though - that you need to reject the agreement to get it to be a dumb TV. Which is it?
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by Loughla on Monday December 16, 2024 @07:17PM (#42437014)
Is the same thing. The agreement is giving it Wi-Fi access. If you say no, you deny Wi-Fi.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by monksy on Sunday December 15, 2024 @10:48PM (#42427866)
Later firmwares will still try to push you to the smart tv display if there is no signal for 5 seconds to get you to setup the wifi.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by echelon on Sunday December 15, 2024 @10:59PM (#42427910)
They'll probably install cellular connectivity or brick the devices if they can't connect.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by tmcdos on Tuesday December 17, 2024 @04:14AM (#42439732)
Then we simply won't buy TVs and will only watch computer.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by soared on Sunday December 15, 2024 @11:55PM (#42428119)
TCL is the same, as are likely every brand of TV. The smart tv hate is overhyped. All my TVs are dumb because they were smart but never got WiFi access.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by cjaackie on Monday December 16, 2024 @01:29AM (#42428483)
I think this is the way, just don’t give it wifi access! Fun story, my sony has android tv and can play MKV files off a flash drive (eg. a non-streaming tv show), but the built in player is horrible (drops frames?). Turns out I was able to find the right version of VLC player and adb the apk over the Ethernet port! Really worked a treat.

This avoided connecting it to wifi, but I still got what I wanted out of it.

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by jqpabc123 on Monday December 16, 2024 @09:32AM (#42431292)
TCL is the same, as are likely every brand of TV.

They are not all the same --- even within the same manufacturer.

A lot of newer firmwares will launch into setup every time you power up if access is not configured. The TV configuration data is most likely being saved/retrieved from their cloud. This serves as their connectivity test.

Without wifi setup, my new Hisense 4k "budget" model does this *unless* you run it in "store" mode.

Dealing with setup on every power up is possible --- but obviously highly annoying over time --- and this is by design.

The manufacturers desperately want the data collection $. It's the only way some of them make money.