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Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Sunday December 15, 2024 @03:31PM (#42425780)
if you write “regulation” as solution to any problem you are guaranteed that problem will not only not be solved but will be magnitudes of order worse (now it is also a political campaign issue :) like talking about shower heads fridges during recent one…)
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by g-b-r on Sunday December 15, 2024 @05:45PM (#42426505)
Yeah, because "market" as solution to any problem has definitely better outcomes
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:04PM (#42426583)
didn’t say that, but if I had to choose between market and regulation I would choose market every day of the week and twice on sunday
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by unethical_ban on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:07PM (#42426597)
You said that regulation is never a solution to any problem. That is objectively false. Go swim in the Hudson river in 1960.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:40PM (#42426769)
sounds like fun
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by peutetre on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:48PM (#42426801)
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:59PM (#42426853)
what separates boys from men… :)
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by peutetre on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:12PM (#42426898)
It is indeed. Boys privatize profits and socialize costs. Boys trash the place leading to poisoning, sickness, and suffering relieved only by the sweet release of death.

Men pay their costs. Men don't take shortcuts. Men measure twice and cut once.

Men have the balls to do it right.

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by mulmen on Sunday December 15, 2024 @08:13PM (#42427156)
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Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:27PM (#42426969)
measure just twice?! that needs to be regulated, seems like at least seven measurements are needed
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by mulmen on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:27PM (#42426713)
I wish people would stop regurgitating this obvious lie. You can’t walk 3 feet without bumping in to something that is better for you because of regulation.

My motorcycle has a rev limiter for a reason. If you let the motor run wide open it will fail catastrophically. Economies are no different.

If you think regulation doesn’t work then you’re simply ignorant of how even basic parts of your daily life work.

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by WillPostForFood on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:21PM (#42426939)
My motorcycle has a rev limiter for a reason. If you let the motor run wide open it will fail catastrophically. Economies are no different.

It is an interesting metaphor to draw because you didn't need regulation to get a rev limiter.

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by mulmen on Sunday December 15, 2024 @08:08PM (#42427129)
Yes, it is a metaphor, not an example.

In the case of my motorcycle the authority is Honda and myself. I can control the constraints but I would never remove them.

It seems like the benefits of constraints would be obvious to engineers but apparently not.

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Monday December 16, 2024 @06:27PM (#42436657)
you are programmed to think this way because you will focus on some “good regulations” and say “look, regulation in ____ caused all these positive things.” but regulation means that government decided what can or cannot be done. and government is run by people that spend 70+% of their time fundraising. and people that shell out money at said fundraisers will want things and return. and that leads to regulations which are not in the interest of people in general but you know… also regulation is a double-egded sword as you always imagine that regulation will “go your way cause you are smart and have common sense” but we both know (especially in the USA) that is not the case. every regulation made by one political party the other will do everything possible to remove once they get the power back and vice versa
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by HeatrayEnjoyer on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:42PM (#42426776)
Air pollution is nothing like it used to be.

Why spread such untruths?

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bigstrat2003 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:22PM (#42426944)
Whether regulation is a good or a bad tool for solving problems is an opinion. It cannot, by definition, be "untrue". At most one can say that they disagree and cite evidence as to why.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by lm28469 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:44PM (#42426782)
What do you think about laws? Or lead in gas? Asbestos in your house? Are you one of these free thinkers who don't use seats belts because regulations are always bad?
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bigstrat2003 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:25PM (#42426959)
Your last sentence makes no sense. Something can both be good, and be undesirable for government regulation. For example, it's good for me to eat vegetables. But it would be odious to have a law requiring me to eat X number of vegetables per day. Similarly, a person can be in favor of wearing seatbelts but opposed to a law requiring seatbelt use.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by chris37879 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @11:04PM (#42427927)
Your reasoning is flawed, eating vegetables or not basically only affects you and your health, not wearing a seatbelt turns you into a projectile against the general public.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Tuesday December 17, 2024 @07:41AM (#42440900)
> not wearing a seatbelt turns you into a projectile against the general public.

if you are driving a convertible :)

Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by freedomben on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:56PM (#42426837)
You sullied a great set of questions with the last sentence, which makes the whole set fail the ideological Turing test.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by jmward01 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @07:29PM (#42426977)
It looks like a lot of people have taken this statement to be proof that the poster doesn't believe in 'regulation'. When I read this I believe the poster is pointing out how the US has a tendency to politicized anything with the word 'regulation' associated with it to the detriment of the issue involved. For what it is worth, I too see the attack on 'regulation' without context or thought and it makes it hard to accomplish things as a society, but it also forces you to think of other ways things could get done. Convincing people to vote with their wallets or just bringing bad press are also ways to influence this issue. I personally do think regulation has a very big place in this discussion but maybe if we explored other avenues more we could make progress as well.
Re:Why Dumb TVs Deserve a Comeback by bdangubic on Monday December 16, 2024 @06:20PM (#42436605)
exactly :)