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Re:School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improve... by wholinator2 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @09:04AM (#42423424)
Sure, maybe in his time he was right. Maybe he wasn't. But i think if you go ask parents of grade/middle/high schoolers they'd cry with joy if their children were just addicted to reading. It's fully possible that going from only ever interacting in the real world with people to sitting alone reading all day caused some problems with integration. It's also entirely possible that phones do a different kind of thing by not just dampening real world interactions, but effectively siphoning out your attention span as well (have you never felt this? Do you scroll on any of the infinite feed bullshit? If you think it doesn't obliterate your attention span, spend the first hour of every day watching tiktok and then tell me how easy it is to start work).

We all know that attention span is _required_ to get anything done academically, so directly correlated to intelligence, or at least the ability to get anything done at all. We all know that children are building their brains, and that significant experiences in childhood impact the view and life of the person far into adulthood. Ergo, do you really thing that being unable to read a single paragraph about Socrates for the future of... the world?

I simply cannot understand the pushback to such a simple and effective policy. Sure, the researchers probably have a bias. All schools aren't being made to do this, many schools implementing this are _choosing_ to, because _they_ interact with our children academically and know that the grade school generation is gonna eat rocks on any college level task because they can't stop looking at their phones, something which is easy to observe many children are _physically incapable of doing_.

Sure, maybe it's a really good time for impossibly motivated and unsocial children, i was one of them, and i can tell you that even having not grown up with it, i (almost 30) am having a hell of a time balancing needing to have snapchat to stay in contact with friends i moved away from, and getting trapped in the continuous feed the app seems to insert into more and more places. About using reddit as a scholarly resource for any question google won't help with and getting trapped in their endless feed. I know it's bad, and I'm a fully grown adult member of society, and i didn't grow up with it. And i'll tell you, i'd trade this phone shit for a book addiction in a microsecond.

What you're advocating for is a future where average attention span continuously decreases. Why do you want that? Why are you against the idea that phone might be fucking bad for us, and especially so for children? What experiences have you had with phone addiction in yourself and loved ones that gives you credibility in this topic? Genuinely asking

Re:School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improve... by bluGill on Sunday December 15, 2024 @09:33AM (#42423590)
My kids are addicted to reading and I don't like it. Reading is great but not at the expense of staying up until 3am on a school night, not helping with basic household chores, not practicing music, not doing homework.
Re:School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improve... by warner25 on Sunday December 15, 2024 @12:30PM (#42424644)
I feel this. When I envisioned having kids, I never envisioned having to tell them a dozen times per day to "put the book away!" I accept that it's a relatively good problem to have, but there are absolutely inappropriate times and places to be looking at a book for pleasure, absorbed to the point of losing track of time and not hearing any directions given.
Re:School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improve... by quesera on Sunday December 15, 2024 @03:06PM (#42425602)
I think all of those downsides may be frustrating in the moment, but will turn out to be much less important, when viewed in the longer term.
Re:School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improve... by llm_trw on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:24PM (#42426695)
I honestly think that parents enjoy depriving their kids of experiences because it's how they were raised.

Big deal they are staying up late. Let them sleep in on the weekend to make up the difference.

Re:School smartphone ban results in better sleep and improve... by nosbo on Sunday December 15, 2024 @06:52PM (#42426819)
That's not how it works for sleep though.