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Re:OpenAI cofounder Ilya Sutskever says the way AI is built ... by zozbot234 on Saturday December 14, 2024 @10:15AM (#42417597)
Synthetic datasets are useless (other than for very specific purposes, such as enforcing known strong priors, and even then it's way better to do it directly by changing the architecture). You're better off spending that compute by making multiple passes over the data you do have.
Re:OpenAI cofounder Ilya Sutskever says the way AI is built ... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Saturday December 14, 2024 @01:22PM (#42418591)
This is contrary to what the big AI labs have found. Synthetic data is the new game in town.
Re:OpenAI cofounder Ilya Sutskever says the way AI is built ... by kranke155 on Saturday December 14, 2024 @01:36PM (#42418645)
Ilya is saying it doesn’t work in this talk apparently.
Re:OpenAI cofounder Ilya Sutskever says the way AI is built ... by seanhunter on Sunday December 15, 2024 @02:16AM (#42422055)
Ilya could be wrong. I don’t think the question is decided yet in general. We already know that in lots of fields fake data can be used in ways that are as useful as or even more useful than the real thing[1], but in my understanding that tends to be situations where we have an objective function that is unambiguous and known beforehand. Meta has some very impressive work on synthetic data for training and my (uninformed) read was that is the state of the art in eg voice recognition at the moment.[2]

[1] Eg Sobel sequences in a monte carlo simulation instead of real random numbers. They allow better coverage of the space of a simulation from fewer paths. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/004155...

[2] Seems a good overview is https://arxiv.org/html/2404.07503

Re:OpenAI cofounder Ilya Sutskever says the way AI is built ... by toxik on Saturday December 14, 2024 @01:33PM (#42418635)
Most priors are not encodable as architecture though, or only partially.