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Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by nine_k on Friday December 13, 2024 @04:56PM (#42412722)
Mechanical properties are very important, too. Able to bend, able to be cut, able to withstand mild shocks and vibration without fracturing. Something you can make actual wires from, at least at some stage. This, superconducting at liquid nitrogen temperature, would produce a revolution. Transmission lines alone would be huge.
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by anyfoo on Friday December 13, 2024 @08:48PM (#42413972)
> Transmission lines alone would be huge.

Or small! :D

Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by nine_k on Friday December 13, 2024 @11:11PM (#42414617)
But either way freezin' cool!
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by popol12 on Saturday December 14, 2024 @04:13AM (#42415709)
How would we cool transmission lines to liquid nitrogen temperature?
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by yencabulator on Saturday December 14, 2024 @04:47PM (#42419684)
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by jmyeet on Saturday December 14, 2024 @09:33AM (#42417372)
> Transmission lines alone would be huge.

Transmission lines are a great example of competing demands. Copper is a better conductor so why do we use aluminium? Because of weight. And weight is a huge factor in supporting large cables over long distances.

Metals are also ductile, which is important for a cable to hang in gravity under its own weight, be moved by the wind and so on. Assumedly exotic crystals wouldn't have this property. Even if they could, what would the weight be? Would the cross-section need to be much larger? Particular to this family of superconductors, tungsten isn't exactly the easiest thing to do deal with, particularly on a massive scale.

There's an interesting Reddit thread about this topic [1]. One issue it raises is we'd need to essentiaally rebuild our entire infrastructure and transformers are a big part of that.

Personally, I think energy is going to get an awful lot more local. Solar is our future (IMHO). The ability to store excess power generated during the day and then use it when it's dark or cloudy will obviate the need to expensive long-line transmission infrasturcture from distant power plants.

Lastly, the GP is correct: liquid nitrogen is incredibly cheap. It's basically the cost of drinking water. Getting something we could use at liquid nitrogen cooling temperatures would be incredibly impactful.

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPhysics/comments/12etlkr/wouldnt...

Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by nick3443 on Saturday December 14, 2024 @10:51AM (#42417811)
Cheaper batteries meeting the storage requirements for renewables would be a game changer!
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by astrange on Saturday December 14, 2024 @06:04PM (#42420127)
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by BurningFrog on Saturday December 14, 2024 @12:46PM (#42418397)
Maybe superconducting transmission lines need to be underground
Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by nine_k on Sunday December 15, 2024 @12:34AM (#42421710)
I suppose that power lines may start looking more like pipelines. These can be above-ground is the actual piping is not heavy, on lower pylons with a reduced span. Liquid nitrogen is lighter than water, does not need high pressure, and the insulation is mostly styrofoam.

The voltage can be substantially lowered, because high currents don't lead to high losses; the current may be made as high as practical, near to the limit of the material's superconducting state.

Re:Exotic New Superconductors Delight and Confound by zahlman on Sunday December 15, 2024 @02:58AM (#42422203)
>Lastly, the GP is correct: liquid nitrogen is incredibly cheap. It's basically the cost of drinking water.

Hold on, what? How?? Reaching that temperature seems like a difficult task; and what's used as a source of pure nitrogen, anyway? Is there some clever trick to separating it out from the air?