News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by TeMPOraL on Thursday December 12, 2024 @03:23AM (#42397320)
It's not, not anymore than it already was.

I guess there is some truth to the adage that a male body can't push blood both to the brain and to the penis at the same time - it's either one, or the other. I mean, if you step back and take a cold look at the content produced by popular OF performers, it's pretty apparent those are business operations. There are other people involved. Someone does the camera work. Location work. Promotion. And yes, fan management too.

Same applies to YouTube personas, too. Brands, not people. Talking to fans is a job that can be outsourced. AI doesn't introduce anything new; AI features on the platform are competing with creators' brand management agencies, which themselves likely already use ChatGPT for this anyway, because why wouldn't they? ChatGPT does better job at this stuff and is cheaper than human labor - but again, the AI angle isn't important here - that human labor was just a generative model in a protein substrate anyway.

Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by nickff on Thursday December 12, 2024 @01:11PM (#42401674)
>"It's not, not anymore than it already was."

Maybe it already was fraud. I expect to see class-action lawsuits on the way soon.

Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by TeMPOraL on Thursday December 12, 2024 @01:43PM (#42401997)
It wasn't. It perhaps should've been, but instead, it was just "legitimate marketing practice".

This is another facet of a larger phenomenon, that I just commented on in another thread[0] - there's a lot of harmful activity that's considered legitimate, thus invisible to our legal and cultural immune systems, yet no less harmful than the slightly less legitimate scams.

--

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42401894

Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by nickff on Thursday December 12, 2024 @04:58PM (#42403856)
Your linked post seems to be a polemic, not a legal analysis. Many advertisements are subject to successful (expensive) class-action lawsuits based on some fraud or truth-in-marketing claim. Also, this isn’t an advertisement, it’s a communication which takes place under an implied contract.
Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by account42 on Monday December 16, 2024 @08:38AM (#42430827)
If I take something from you and am never caught was it not theft?
Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by throwaway2037 on Thursday December 12, 2024 @07:04PM (#42404717)
First, let me say that you often post here on HN, and you are one of my favourites. You really have an ability to view the issue from multiple angles and provide thoughtful replies.

After reading your post, I had a thought: Making this story about OnlyFans is the click bait element. Seriously, replay the story in your head where it says that top 1/2/3/4/5% of YouTubers or Instagrammers or TikTokkers are using LLMs to answer comments and DMs. Suddenly, the story is much less enticing. It probably would not even make HN front page. Most readers here would look at such an article, shrug their shoulders, and say: "Yeah, seems right. I would do the same.". However, as soon as you add sex work into the mix, it gets way more spicy and elicits more emotional responses.

Re:OnlyFans Models Are Using AI Impersonators to Keep Up wit... by account42 on Monday December 16, 2024 @08:36AM (#42430806)
The difference is that on OF the direct contact is part of the sales pitch (perhaps the only part that actually provides "value" since there is no shortage of free porn, including OF leaks) whereas on other platforms it is not (and you are not directly purchasing anything at all but watching ads instead). Onlyfans isn't clickbait here because it is genuinely more scummy than doing this in the other places you mentioned.

That said, I don't agree that using AI chatbots to deceive fans is OK anywhere else either. And no, I would definitely not ever do it myself.