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Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by rfw300 on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @12:53AM (#42385180)
It's not a good outcome, but it's also not fraudulent conveyance. Principally because the proceeds of the sale go to the victims.
Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by ipaddr on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:24AM (#42385312)
They go to the creditors including his primary sponsor. This is not a bad outcome it's the only correct legal outcome.

What you are saying is we should allow a creditor (of many) to sell an asset to whoever they choose at a lower market rate because it's the right political move in this one case. Why wouldn't those rules be applied in other cases.. you can sell any asset for a dollar to yourself and the bankrupt person will still be on the hook for the total debt minus a dollar. Letting a single creditor value assets below marketrate and direct a sale to someone they wanted would be a completely unfair process.

Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by redeux on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @03:06PM (#42392244)
This isn’t about politics, it’s about justice. The only reason politics is even in the equation is because Jones has made his living as a political blatherskite.
Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by johnnyanmac on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:07PM (#42392985)
Law is almost inherently poliical. Politics was in the equation the moment Jones decided to pretend a tragic school shooting was fake news.
Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by redeux on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @05:56PM (#42393981)
So where is justice in this equation then?
Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by johnnyanmac on Thursday December 12, 2024 @12:16AM (#42396435)
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Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by redeux on Thursday December 12, 2024 @06:04AM (#42398183)
That’s a legal remedy not justice. Justice wouldn’t let Jones potentially buy back the company using money the siphoned off and hid from the court.
Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by johnnyanmac on Thursday December 12, 2024 @06:08AM (#42398197)
I agree. I never said there weren't loopholes in the remedy. We'll see if they manage to close it off.
Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by pyrale on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:41PM (#42393293)
That is not what happened, though.

One group of creditors said they were willing to abandon some of their claims, which means other creditors would have gotten a larger share of the smaller bid, effectively making these other creditors better off.

Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by avs733 on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @09:42AM (#42388169)
>A transfer will be fraudulent if made with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud any creditor.

If they get it less, later, or more chaotically, or if that was the intent it is.

Re:Judge Refuses to Allow Sale of Infowars to The Onion by munk-a on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @09:58AM (#42388370)
The proceeds of the sale will not come close to the value of the judgement - and Jones has acted extremely dishonestly through the process and repeatedly tried to move value from his company to his parents and other affiliate companies. I don't believe it's a fraudulent conveyance but there's a lot of awful happening here.