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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by zozbot234 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:29PM (#42382342)
> While US has excellent education

The US has excellent post-secondary education. K-12 seems to be a mixed bag at best, especially in bang-for-the-buck terms.

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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by xyzzyz on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:33PM (#42382388)
K-12 education is also leading international charts, but I agree that we are most likely massively overspending on it.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by pishpash on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @06:34PM (#42382921)
By what metric?
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by rendang on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @07:51PM (#42383494)
PISA scores as per a commenter above:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....

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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by xyzzyz on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @08:13PM (#42383649)
We spend more on education that practically anyone else, and we spend more on it that we had in the past, with very little difference between now and then.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by bjourne on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:46AM (#42385440)
Figure created by arbitrarily massaging the data to reach the desired conclusion.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by rendang on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @04:06PM (#42392973)
How's that?
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by bjourne on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @05:07PM (#42393539)
No racial breakdown for countries other than the US and immigrants are generally not excluded in PISA.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by rendang on Thursday December 12, 2024 @02:16PM (#42402325)
Some of the countries, like Japan, are close enough to racially homogenous that the results wouldn't be affected. For France or something it would be more interesting to see racial breakdowns, if the data existed. I don't think that means the comparison in the chart is arbitrary
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by bjourne on Friday December 13, 2024 @04:26AM (#42407181)
That data does exist but is mysteriously excluded. Perhaps because it doesn't support the race bait? Moreover, contrary to the figure's claims, PISA does not exclude immigrants. It's just a hodgepodge of crappy statistics. Don't get fooled by anonymous Reddit posters.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @01:13AM (#42385269)
Why are teachers still buying their own school supplies if the US is overspending?
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by clarionbell on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @10:24AM (#42388666)
The money is taken by middlemen. Spending lot on education is necessary if you want good results, but it's not enough if there is lot of corruption in the system.
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Re:U.S. math scores drop on major international test by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @12:41PM (#42390417)
That I believe. Let's fix that before we start taking away money.
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