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Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by furyofantares on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:40PM (#42373165)
This is wildly unrealistic.

Many people have not been bent over by insurance, but that's the less confusing part of this post.

Almost everyone who has been bent over by insurance will still find someone who assassinated another dude guilty.

Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by acdha on Monday December 09, 2024 @09:56PM (#42373252)
I generally agree but think it’ll depend on how sympathetic his case is and what defense he tries. I believe New York juries have to reach a unanimous decision and if he had one of those insurance horror stories it wouldn’t be unheard of for at least one juror to feel sympathetic to, say, a provocation defense and only find him guilty of lesser charges.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by 1123581321 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:29AM (#42374336)
Not guilty must also be unanimous. If the jurors can’t agree it’ll be retried. Usually lone holdouts capitulate.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by acdha on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @07:22AM (#42376184)
Yes, as I said the mostly likely outcome is guilty but it wouldn’t shock me if, say, he wasn’t convicted on every charge. Juries introduce a human element and the response to this murder illustrates how many people really hate insurance companies. Something over 10% of Americans say they know someone who died due to denied care, which is a big enough number that I wouldn’t rule anything out.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by 1123581321 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @08:43AM (#42376723)
There are other stats in play, too. For example, 30% of Americans know a murder victim. 50% have dealt with gun violence. The jury system narrows down to people who can focus on the law and follow the judge’s instructions. The pool of potential jurors is huge. It’s been rare that a trial has changed counties in any state because too many people in a county have strong feelings about the victim or perpetrator. I could see lesser murder charged being brought to keep motivation out of the trial, though. And yes, rule nothing out (in any trial.)
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by robotresearcher on Monday December 09, 2024 @10:32PM (#42373448)
Anyone who has been bent over by insurance will not be selected for the jury.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by galangalalgol on Monday December 09, 2024 @10:49PM (#42373543)
I'm not sure that is even necessary. I know enough people impacted by such things I'm not sure I wouldn't nullify even though I haven't been impacted myself. I don't think they can find 12 people who don't know someone with a bad story.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by Aeolun on Monday December 09, 2024 @11:11PM (#42373659)
Isn't that a reverse conflict of interest? That way you are deliberately selecting people that are more/less sympathetic than a baseline of the US population.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by oneeyedpigeon on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @03:55AM (#42375084)
It's not as if "he was mistreated by an insurer" is a defence, is it? That should be entirely irrelevant to the jury's finding, although sentencing might take it into account. The jury just needs to decide if he did it, so not having been mistreated by an insurer shouldn't preclude someone from making that decision.
Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by robotresearcher on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @12:35PM (#42379050)
'Shouldn't' is true. But the prosecution does not need to explain why they reject a potential juror by 'preemptive challenge'. Why would they take the chance?

Similarly, a defendant's race is not relevant to their guilt, but you're not going to pick a self-declared racist if you don't have to.

Re:Software developer arrested in connection with murder of ... by throwaway8754aw on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:00AM (#42374195)
Agreed yet he'll serve some time like Gypsy Rose. A seemingly good hearted victimized murderer who story seems to work out well for her in the end in. She orchestrated killing her mom vs. just running away. If she's smart enough to get her mom killed indirectly using a lonely dude she's smart enough to run away. Murderer who is free with fame. Luigi is now the same yet is this murderer more liked then Gypsy Rose?