Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by garciasn on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:15PM
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> it also makes the puzzle more fun.
No; it makes the puzzle illogical and thus about as much fun, for those who prefer logical outcomes, as discussing religion or politics.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by dotancohen on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:28PM
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That could be - in my country religion and politics is literally a matter of life or death. We discuss them to no end.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by eblume on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:12PM
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I'm genuinely perplexed by this, how is the puzzle even a puzzle if you don't judge it by formal logic?
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by gosub100 on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:22PM
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It's still useful for young people or those who have never stopped to consider it. I think it's a good introduction to the warts of a context sensitive grammar
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by dotancohen on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:27PM
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Because in everyday life we do not formally define ideas.
Just for example I play a game with my children where we tickle each other when we see a yellow vehicle. Is a yellow tractor a vehicle for purpose of the game? How about a yellow baby cart. How about a billboard with a photograph of a yellow baby's toy car?
We honestly have more fun discussing what is a vehicle for purpose of the game than we do tickling. Especially when it becomes clear that a yellow baby carriage is a vehicle only if it is daddy to be tickled... Honestly a good lesson to learn early that life is not fair and that rules are subjective.
Re:A liar who always lies says "All my hats are green."
by LudwigNagasena on Monday December 09, 2024 @01:39PM
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Reminds me of "The rule says, “No vehicles in the park”", https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36453856
Trying to return to your more naive understanding of logic not only helps understand the intent of the puzzle, it also makes the puzzle more fun.