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Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by ailurooo on Monday December 09, 2024 @02:29AM (#42363769)
ugh this kind of stuff just makes me wish DNS was less centralized, even though it's already incredibly uncentralized.. of course it's just all registrars just being a weak point.. as always
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Monday December 09, 2024 @02:59AM (#42363928)
It is as decentralized as you can get. Dns is the entire foundation of decentralization, any more and you get into schizo hyperprivacy protocols.
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by viraptor on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:02AM (#42363946)
It's federated, not decentralized. For decentralized you need something like https://ens.domains/
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Monday December 09, 2024 @05:32AM (#42364793)
Are there any well established definitions for these terms as separate?
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by viraptor on Monday December 09, 2024 @06:02AM (#42364980)
Yes? Basically half of them? Some people put federation in decentralised group, some say only distributed is decentralised.

In short: centralised = 1 owner/operator, federated = many semi-autonomous operators to choose from, decentralised/distributed = everyone's an operator on the same level.

With DNS you still have groups of operators who can tell you what to do and they have the main agencies on top of that. I subscribe to the "it's not really decentralised" view.

Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Monday December 09, 2024 @02:58PM (#42369908)
Source: It came to me in a dream.
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by viraptor on Monday December 09, 2024 @05:41PM (#42371353)
Alternatively, do a quick search for "decentralised vs federated" yourself. People here don't owe you basic explanations.
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:43AM (#42374412)
It's not that I am dumb and I am asking for help with info. I'm questioning the existence of this, there is no reliable source because these are not standard terms in any discipline.

It's not that you are not giving me source because your time is valuable and I'm dumb. It's because there is no source and these concepts don't have any standard rigorous definition.

https://www.google.com/search?q=decentralized+vs+federated

Google gives me trash. These are trash concepts, nothing written by academics or professionals or standard textbooks, or proceedings of magazines or publications.

Just blogs and cryptonerds (with different definitions).

Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by jstanley on Monday December 09, 2024 @06:11AM (#42365042)
So, it's not as decentralised as you can get, you just personally don't like decentralisation?
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:01PM (#42369936)
*Without descending into a madness that decentralizes your very thought process and identity
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by remram on Monday December 09, 2024 @02:08PM (#42369361)
The network is decentralized, but each domain still has a single registrar, making the service you (domain owner) receive very centralized. If that one registrar misbehaves or is unresponsive, you're out of luck.
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Monday December 09, 2024 @03:00PM (#42369927)
You can switch registrars if you want.
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by remram on Monday December 09, 2024 @07:14PM (#42372144)
This requires cooperation from your current registrar, and involves the registry operator for your TLD which is again a single entity.
Re:Itch.io Taken Down by Funko by TZubiri on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @09:06AM (#42376935)
You are consistently objectively wrong on the facts. So your subjective take that dns is decentralized is again wrong.

You can choose different TLDs. Don't like VeriSign's .com? Go with a country tld or make your own tld. Also tld are regulated it isn't even an independent private entity.

Finally switching registrars does NOT require cooperation of the losing registrar, but of the upstream DNS.

The sane take is just don't chose a meme registrar from a bullshit country just because it sounds like something else.