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Re:China Completes Green Belt Around Taklamakan Desert by JumpCrisscross on Sunday December 08, 2024 @01:37PM (#42359094)
> not really sufficient

Our barge use is crippled by the Jones Act, not water levels. Make it lucrative to ship by barge and the incentives will get the levels back up.

Re:China Completes Green Belt Around Taklamakan Desert by maxglute on Sunday December 08, 2024 @01:47PM (#42359207)
Making shipping lucrative (which US should) can further increase utilization. Issue with Missippi traffic is existing shipping, i.e. those that operate under Jones, are already crippled by reduced water levels as result of heat/drought/climate change. So it's a water level issue, which translates infra commitment issue... not unlike the green belt. Climate change means you have to invest more just to stand still.

E: Like don't get me wrong, internal waterways is a geographic blessing for US, but it also always required enormous/expensive (army) engineering efforts to keep it viable for modern operations (larger barges etc). It's one of those case where terraforming/technology has outstripped natural capacity, but it's possible to augment geography to facilitate more technology, but right now augmentation efforts are not sufficient, not just to improve through put, but to maintain it, because geography can decline.

Re:China Completes Green Belt Around Taklamakan Desert by JumpCrisscross on Monday December 09, 2024 @12:48PM (#42368428)
> it's a water level issue, which translates infra commitment issue

The point is with the Jones Act there isn't much value in barges. So other uses of the water are prioritised. Adding water doesn't have an ROI commensurate with alternative uses.

Re:China Completes Green Belt Around Taklamakan Desert by maxglute on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:22PM (#42382269)
The mississippi utilization priority is commercial traffic, which is prodominantly barge traffic for all sorts of critical bulk cargo. It's an extremely valuable waterway that can't be replaced by rail or truck. It's not about adding water, it's about dredging to maintain same water levels or building out infra to be more resilient to water level changes, in so far as Jones Act is concerned, along with Foreign Dredge Act, it limits non US ships from conducting maintainence, which precludes bidders like the Dutch who are much better / economical at maintaining water ways. The ROI is massive, but there exist lack of commitment to fix, at least with urgency that, which is in part legistlative.
Re:China Completes Green Belt Around Taklamakan Desert by cassepipe on Sunday December 08, 2024 @01:49PM (#42359245)
I didn't know about the Jones Act

""" It requires that all goods transported by water between U.S. ports be carried on ships that have been constructed in the United States and that fly the U.S. flag, are owned by U.S. citizens, and are crewed by U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents """

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920

Re:China Completes Green Belt Around Taklamakan Desert by lenkite on Sunday December 08, 2024 @10:53PM (#42362938)
Jeez that act is ridiculous - the U.S. would sanction other nations for such a law on their books.